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[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 23 points 7 months ago

During that committee, the Conservatives proposed 19,600 amendments to the 18-page bill. That number decreased to 200 once the bill left committee and headed back to the House of Commons.

Government House leader Steven MacKinnon said Thursday those amendments were "robo-amendments created by AI."

[Conservative Leader Pierre] Poilievre now will have to have his members come here and vote for as long as it takes on a couple of hundred amendments that survived that robo-amendment process that they admitted was undertaken by artificial intelligence, by robot caucus members and robot parliamentarians," he said.

99% of the amendments were actual GPT-fluff.

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago

How do you even make 20,000 amendments to an 18 page document? Did they change every word individually?

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In late March, during a committee discussion about an unrelated topic, Stubbs denied the Bill C-50 amendments were computer generated.

"Because the fact is that the 'just transition' is a global, top-down, socialist agenda to central-plan a forced economic β€” not only energy β€” transition away from the sectors and businesses that underpin all of Canada's economy: energy, agriculture, construction, transportation and manufacturing," she said.

Hahahaha, nothing says 'socialist agenda' like the Liberal party. Is this embarrassing to Con voters? Or do they actually think this stuff?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Come to Alberta, we have idiots with giant 'Trudeau is a communist' billboards

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Come to Alberta

No thanks.* (Heyooooo!)

I'm not surprised though, just disappointed. Their poor kids... at least the NDP is resurgent there.

(*I have family in Alberta)

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We're not all troglodytes, but unfortunately a lot of the people here are. I'm hopeful for the next election, nobody likes Danielle Smith, even the people who voted for her. Here in Edmonton most of the city goes NDP

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

This is basically a double insult. Either they did use it, or they didn't use it, and they are just that bad that people think it looks like it was.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Time for a new bill outlawing AI generated text from bills. πŸ˜‚

[–] undercrust@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

There were 19,000 amendments proposed by the conservatives, on an 18 page bill.

Assuming a human could write 10 amendments per hour, that would have taken 50 people working full time for a week straight on this.

It was definitely AI.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

When it moved to the natural resources committee in November for study, the debate descended into a chaotic mess and lengthy filibuster that at one point had MPs screaming at each other to shut up.

The noise was so loud during the final meeting in early December that two MPs voted the wrong way on a motion because they couldn't hear what was being proposed.

Man every time I read stuff like this or watch some of the videos from the house, it makes me realize how sad and pathetic this all is. Seriously? I can't imagine how my work would react if I began screaming and berating a coworker.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

MacKinnon said the Conservatives were getting a "time out," but the time has come for the bill to move forward.

"[Conservative Leader Pierre] Poilievre now will have to have his members come here and vote for as long as it takes on a couple of hundred amendments that survived that robo-amendment process that they admitted was undertaken by artificial intelligence, by robot caucus members and robot parliamentarians," he said.

"This is not the way to make progress for Canadians, it's not the way to make progress for climate change and it is not the way to offer economic opportunity for Canadian workers."

Of course the party that voted against confirming climate change exists are fucking this, it's all they do. The icing on the cake is how embarrassing using AI to try to create amendments ~~is~~ should be for them.

[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago

Second highest paid parliamentarians in the world, folks.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does this bill do anything to strengthen unions? I read unions support it but haven't dug into whether it does anything directly for unions.

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But whether they say "unions are bad" or "let's help unions", it's still a mention. This alone doesn't indicate which.

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

lol if you click that link, and ctrl+f "union", then read each instance, you'll see it's not negative.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Members of Parliament are expected to vote for up to 15 hours in a row Thursday and Friday on more than 200 Conservative amendments to the government's sustainable jobs bill.

Conservative critic Shannon Stubbs calls it a blueprint for what she deemsΒ the Liberals' "wide-scale radical economic restructuring."

When it moved to the natural resources committee in November for study, the debate descended into a chaotic mess and lengthy filibuster that at one point had MPs screaming at each other to shut up.

The noise was so loud during the final meeting in early December that two MPs voted the wrong way on a motion because they couldn't hear what was being proposed.

In late March, duringΒ a committee discussion about an unrelated topic, Stubbs denied the Bill C-50 amendments were computer generated.

At midnight, a minister can seek to suspend the votes until 9 a.m. the following day, to protect the health and safety of not only MPs but Hill and House of Commons staff.


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