this post was submitted on 01 Apr 2024
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Corporate online social networks ultimately aim to increase profits, so they inevitably enshitify themselves. Meanwhile, the federated system allows users to switch instances or even create their own should their current main instance become unappealing. It also allows users to join several instances simultaneously, allowing users to tailor their experiences based on purpose and privacy.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 26 points 7 months ago

Hard agree.

There's no algorithm pushing things at me for sake of engagement, you have so much more control over your experience, you can use any number of frontends, and it's just generally more "human".

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bruh look where you are, this is a popular opinion

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago
[–] SameOldInternet@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. I find the federated networks to be self cannibalizing closed off ecosystems that craft themselves into something worst than any "corporate" social network. Don't get me wrong and think I'm a fan of traditional social networks. I've just come to understand that the federated universe of social networks is not what they made themselves out to be. They're controlled by small groups with barely any transparency on security and privacy and little ability to protect users from the dangers of the Internet. These servers are run by a handful of individuals who answer to no one. The federated networks have become a haven for misinformation and bigotry on a level that rival the mainstream social networks. The content shared is usually just taken from other networks or so obscure they barely generate any engagement. Etc, etc... TLDR, it's just worst here.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There's very little oversight mitigate propaganda and it's immediately apparent after two minutes on Lemmy.

[–] palestinian@toast.ooo 3 points 7 months ago

all anyone does on lemmy is complain about hexbear, .ml, lemmygrad when they're essentially sanctioned from the rest of Lemmy. There are so many instances that have defederated them and you cannot even respond to Linux post without being told to fuck off with a hexbear.net account. Like why do you feel the need to complain and yell at clouds. The entirety of liberal Lemmy is on board with you and you choose to be annoyed. So typical.

[–] thisfro 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

For example? On what instance(s)?

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and Hexbear are the worst. There's also a ton of propaganda on Lemmy.world.

[–] thisfro 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Block them if your instance not already defederated them anyway

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That will solve the problem only for me. I want to see Lemmy survive as a healthy social media option.

[–] thisfro 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think that more freedom is better for the network and every user and instance should choose for themselves what they want to see. But I agree with you that it should be easier to find an instance that suits your preferences, especially if you are not yet familiar with other instances

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

That's a nice ideal, but it doesn't work in reality. That freedom will be abused by corporations like it's already abused by propagandists.

Instance owners should do basic regulation for the health of the network, which means defederating from malicious corporations and sources of propaganda.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

if they told you then you might be able to rebutt them