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The original PC port for Wipeout was very poor, looks like someone has made a proper PC port utilizing PS1 data: https://github.com/wipeout-phantom-edition

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://github.com/wipeout-phantom-edition

I hate it when people use Github and pretend an application is open source when in fact they only host a couple of screenshots and a binary download. The "source code" download only contains the screenshots and the Readme.

[–] madsen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the source code download is automatically added by GitHub when you create a release in a project, and I don't know that there's any way to remove it. So I don't think the "source code" download is necessarily intentionally misleading, but apart from that, yeah, you're absolutely right. It is a bit of a shitty way to use GitHub.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So I don’t think the “source code” download is necessarily intentionally misleading

The source code archives weren't explicitly placed by that person but everyone who ever used Github knows exactly that this happens. Even a quick glance at the URL suggests it's an open source implementation of the engine.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was my exact reaction too, but then I remembered that the source that this source-port is based on was not officially released. It was leaked a little while back (last year?), so that means if the authors of this source port make the source available then they could be liable for a DMCA takedown request or a copyright lawsuit.

They could make their changes available as a patch-set though, requiring end-users to locate a copy of the leaked source themselves and apply the patches.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

this source-port is based on was not officially released. It was leaked a little while back (last year?), so that means if the authors of this source port make the source available then they could be liable for a DMCA takedown request or a copyright lawsuit.

That's in no way different with a binary-only release and also not a good reason to mislead people on top of that.

[–] dan@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been playing Wipeout 3 via an emulator on my steam deck, it’s fucking great. Well, the difficulty curve is brutal but it’s great fun and stands up today. The design elements are still fantastic.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wipeout 2097 (XL in the US) is superior to Wipeout 3 imo, better music, better power ups, MUCH better Menü System (what were they thinking with that grey minimalist mess that is 3...).

[–] dan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

2097 was cool for sure, and I used to listen to a lot of the music that was in all the games and bands the designers had done artwork for.

I love the design in wipeout 3. I know it’s not for everyone. It was the same designers as 2097, and a deliberate choice by them to try to create something minimal that would feel like a real racing league. I think they did a fantastic job. I love that there’s no logo. I love that some of the text is huge and angular with no antialiasing and some is tiny and heavily antialiased, I love the pixel perfect selection boxes. It’s so fantastically on point as a grown up evolution of 2097.

If anything, I think it holds up better today than it did at the time.

Also touches like the birds on the first track are fantastic.

(Btw I’m not talking about the special edition where they made the text bigger and uglified it significantly)

I love 2097 for that deep voiced announcer. The sound of him saying “MISSILES” mixed with the reverb of a tunnel gives all the feels.

[–] chrisphero@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I really wish there was a new one…

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BallisticNG is a spiritual successor to the PS1 originals (including optional texture warping). The aforementioned Redout is more targeting modern stylistic choices. Both games are good but I like BallisticNG more.

[–] chrisphero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately I’m only on consoles (for now), but I’ve added it to my steam wish list.

[–] harry_nola@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Checkout redout on steam!

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There was wipeEout Omega Collection released for PS4 in 2017. It's a remaster of wipEout HD (2008) and wipEout 2048 (2012)

[–] brsrklf@compuverse.uk 2 points 1 year ago

And it works surprisingly well in VR too. Though I would not recommend removing the optional cylinder thing that's here to block your peripheral vision.

With it I can play long sessions with absolutely zero problems. Without... Well a short glance at the sky would make me sick veeeery fast.

[–] chrisphero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I really enjoyed it, but I would enjoy a new one even more haha

[–] Skua@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It had a bit of a rough release, but I really like Pacer. It's by a team that includes a number of people that worked on the Wipeout games. It's not aiming at the same retro vibes as BallisticNG or the absolute speed over all else of Redout, it's more like a modernised take on Wipeout 2097 or 3

[–] chrisphero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This one I already had in my steam wishlist and I just saw it was previously called formula fusion… unfortunately I’m only on consoles!

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