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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's really messed up that they can force me to agree to new terms or discard my devices.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They can't, this is bullshit, and we should sue as a class. Where tha lawyers at? (to tell my why I'm wrong, I have no idea what I'm talking about.)

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This should be illegal. The fact that they are presently getting away with this speaks to the failures of our legal system.

I paid for the device to do these things. Would it be legal if you changed the rules to say that now all my property is yours for example or you're taking away the device you sold me? It seems brazenly illegal.

[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also, I left that screen up and my kid hit ok, how is that legally enforceable? I didn't agree to anything.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Depends on whether you admit that you know your kid did that and then kept using the service without checking the new terms of service. But I don’t think your legal name is xpinchx, so you’re probably good ;)

[–] Zier@fedia.io 13 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure there is some legal version of "you can't force a consumer to give up their legal rights". This is why we need a strong Consumer Protection Bureau.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 42 points 8 months ago

Local Consumer Protection Agencies need to recall all Roku devices and order Roku to give full refunds to everyone who purchased a Roku.

The idea of "agree to these terms to continue using this product", or "agree to these terms that you can only read after opening the shrinkwrap" needs to have a remedy to return and refund anyone who disagrees to the new terms. Otherwise the old terms they agreed to at the time of purchase apply. Companies won't stop these practices if they don't.