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[–] S_204@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IIRC, meat and sunshine have a more severe rating than aspartame.....

This is fear mongering. Nothing's changed.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean meat is literally a leading cause of cancer. So is UV exposure. Those are both major factors that people absolutely should be paying attention to!

[–] Galluf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because they're such an important and pleasure able part of life. Especially sunshine and UV exposure.

There's things you can do to reduce the risk, but most people would be worse off by trying to completely avoid them altogether.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well I mean that sounds nice and everything but depending on how you define "better", it's untrue that most people would be better off by not consuming meat. If by "better off", for example, you mean living longer with less disease. If you mean dying young, then of course things change. It's all subjective!

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not to mention the environmental improvements if most stopped eating meat. Those will contribute significantly to people being better off in addition to the direct effects. Eating meat at the current consumption rates in North America is largely an artifact of artificially low prices, driven by the advent of factory farming and bad labor practices. Not some pursuit of incredible pleasure from eating meat. It can't be, given the quality of a lot of the consumed meat is pretty substandard. I'm saying this as a meat eater.

[–] johnefrancis@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

smells like another attack on sugar substitutes from the sugar industry via the WHO.

Sugar in the quantities that the sugar industry would like to sell is extremely unhealthy.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And the fake sugar is worse for you.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Fairly sure the WHO has concluded that real sugar is worse for you.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Cancer or Diabetes. If you want to drink tons of soda you get to pick one or the other.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alcohol is also a known carcinogen ..... but we base our food system on economics and finances rather than human health.

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but we base our food system on economics and finances rather than human health.

Makes sense. We tried basing our drug system on human health instead of economics and finance, but then people just went through the backdoor to get the drugs they wanted anyway and created a long list of new social problems in the process. Most everyone agrees it is an unmitigated disaster.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Dr. David Ma, a professor of nutritional sciences at the University of Guelph, says a person weighing 70 kilograms would have to drink about 15 cans of diet pop a day to exceed that daily limit." And don't forget all of the studies about what sugar does to your body, which people always forget about while talking about aspartame. There will be a lot of people choosing sugar over aspartame because of these headlines.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There will be a lot of people choosing sugar over aspartame because of these headlines.

Yup, but really, the message should be to consume in MODERATION. It doesn't matter what you choose, but goddamn, drinking 15+ cans a day of anything will give you health problems!

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

No doubt. Water is what all the cool kids drink.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guarantee Coke has known this for decades. They spend close to twenty million dollars a year on scientific research -- and only release a small percentage of their work. Specifically, they only release the work that happens to support their bullshit false claims. Claims that they KNOW is false from the other 95%+ of research they did. They intentionally distort our scientific understanding as an entire species, just to sell more of their fucking toxic sugar (-free) water.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coca-cola-studies-research-funding-university-of-toronto-cambridge-1.5128012

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I drink one Diet Pepsi once a week at the absolute most. Even then, it’s in a restaurant so it’s probably extra diluted so they can penny pinch.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I think you might be fine. 🀭

[–] nikt@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shouldn't c/canada be focused on Canada-specific news and discussion?

I've seen this headline at least a dozen times in the last few days, and seeing it once again here feels like noise. This belongs in c/health or maybe c/woldnews.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original story is from the Canadian Press, published in the Winnipeg free press, About a Canadian Cancer society/WHO meeting.

I'd say this passes muster.

[–] nikt@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s the Canadian Cancer society β€œreacting” to the WHO, adding zero new information. And the link is to a paywall to boot. This is not the kind of post that’s going to help Lemmy succeed.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair enough.

[–] DarthNinja@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I found a non paywall link at the top of this thread

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

If you read the article they get the Canada connection in.

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