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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

By monetizing disinformation, Musk has now effectively crowdsourced Russia's Internet Research Agency.

[–] style99@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to advertising data from Sensor Tower, Twitter’s top 5 advertisers in June — Mondelez International, The Wall Street Journal, HBO, Apple, and FinanceBuzz.io (Buzzery, LLC) — spent nearly $17 million on Twitter ads.

I wonder how proud of the Nazi/KKK mouthpieces Apple is. Something tells me that this money isn't going to be sticking around very long.

[–] Ganondorf@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple doesn't give a shit. Any time a corporation "cares" it's for money-making potential only.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Starbucks abandoned pride at least partially because people were getting assaulted. I agree about performative capitalism but it’s a little different.

[–] Ganondorf@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm sure there could be some level of implied safety in the reasoning, but a local Starbucks was shut down "due to violence near the location" and when the staff were interviewed by local news about the closure they made 2 points: a) they had no idea what "violence" corporate was talking about b) it coincided with multiple stores being closed due to the possibility of unionizing, which that store apparently had been discussing.

Starbucks pulled back Pride right about the same time as Bud Lite taking a sales hit for supporting LGBT. Target did something similar. Seems a little too coincidental, but that's just my opinion based on the factors at play.

[–] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

The thing about it, though… all the pride merch, lattes, beers were not because the corpos care if your lgbtq and being disenfranchised and harassed and all that.

They just wanted to sell more merch and lattes and beers. “Slap a rainbow on it- they will eat it up!” Was literally their thought process.

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[–] dumples@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't understand how a company that isn't profitable with free content expects to make money by paying people to give content, especially if its any content. It is going to be filled with the stupidest, most cringeworthy content of all time at this point with no advertisers wanting to join. I can't wait to continue to not being on twitter

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (16 children)

The value of owning Twitter isn't the profitability of the company, it's the ability to control the conversation. It's the same reason Spez is tanking Reddit. Both platforms were enabling leftist dialogue, and that must be stopped at any cost.

[–] lucidwielder@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As if they can stop the people that literally stood up these sites. But yea - money has a way to wrap left leaning people too. I don’t think Spez or Dorsey started out dumb.

Elon.. moreso given his privilege & weird connections early on. Just glad my gf stopped swooning over him. She didn’t want to believe me about him till more stuff came out that she could relate - wasn’t enough that he he was an asshole to nerds that worked for & with him. Plus discrediting the actual founder of Tesla & pretending the guy never existed.

[–] Stern@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don’t think Spez or Dorsey started out dumb.

Can't speak for Dorsey but Spez started out standard libertarian tech dude dumb vis a vis making reddit "free speech" and enabling the jailbait and racism subs to exist.

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[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Huffman rode Swartz's coattails for engineering. People give a lot more knowledge credit to tech CEOs than they're due, Dorsey is the only one you mentioned who is known to have any programming skill at all.

Musk was apparently the worst at it though, with systems being set up to prevent him contributing code because it was so bad.

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[–] elbowdrop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I was just reading multiple articles about how Twitter can't pay their bills.

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[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Your mere eyeballs on the content posted by these people -- even if just to see what is being said and not because you like it -- is being transformed into direct financial support.

You are the product on Twitter, and that product is being sold to advertisers with the proceeds going to Andrew Tate.

Leave the platform.

[–] Darnov@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much money to be made from grifting right wingers.

[–] Itty53@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

This is grifting advertisers.

If a company is advertising on Twitter they are paying these people. One step removed, it isn't even a stretch. Advertisers on Twitter need to be bombarded with complaints. It's the only way anything changes.

[–] jonion@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Misinformers" "Bad actors"

Do people actually take these terms seriously?

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with "fucking nazi dimwits"

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't support them at all but I seriously believe that by calling them things they are not, you open up the term for more moderate but right leaning people. "If everyone is a Nazi, Naziism must not be so bad."

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If everyone is a Nazi, Naziism must not be so bad.

I don't know how you'd make that leap. Nazism is bad. Hence the people I called nazis are bad.

moderate but right leaning people.

There's no such thing. lol.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If your definition of moderate is anything right of anarchism, I'm sorry to break it to you but you don't understand the definition of the word. Conservatives are not Nazis.

[–] lucidwielder@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Many of them still act as apologists for some pretty despicable ideas & groups nonetheless.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That can be true and then still not be Nazis. Additionally, you pushing them that way doesn't help the issue at all.

[–] Ferk@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then maybe discuss the ideas & groups to get them to either explain themselves or expose themselves... instead of calling them "national socialists" when that's not what they are.

Otherwise why stop at "nazis"? Might as well straight up call them murderers or rapists.

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A moderate who voted to put a Nazi in power is no better than the Nazi who voted to put a Nazi in power.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

What should I call you then when you are encouraging them with your language?

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[–] jonion@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

At least that wouldn't carry the pretext of objectivity.

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[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should. "Meet me in the middle" says the unjust man. I take a step forward and he takes a step back. "Meet me in the middle" says the unjust man.

[–] jonion@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Are you quoting someone or did that pure cringe emanate from your own being?

[–] lucidwielder@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better way to say it imo, is that you have the extremist on the right expanding at a faster clip than the left. And most people do want to be moderate, they want to believe the middle road is justified & yet it puts them solidly conservative w/o them realizing it.

It sucks it does imo & if I saw equal reactions on the left then I’d call it out but I don’t.

[–] jonion@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The right has done nothing but contract for the past 150 years. "Conservatives" have continually met leftists in the middle and conserved nothing. In my country even the state church allows gay and female clergy now. I'm not a christian, but that's the perfect example of the Right relenting even in their supposedly most sacred institution (though I suppose the bank has taken over that role for conservatives of the past century). Meanwhile, the Left has expanded at such a rate that the revolutionaries of two generations ago sound like today's reactionaries.

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[–] thingsiplay@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

@stopthatgirl7 I'm not well informed. When I read something about the new revenue program about Twitter, I thought it was sarcasm and a joke. 2023 is a really interesting year.

[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

The system works as designed.

[–] TZUI1hRq@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Left wing DNC shill Krassenstein got paid thousands.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago
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