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2 of my recent Friendica comments (1 and 2) are not visible from Lemmy. In the case of the one published by a sopuli user, it is visible neitheir on Sopuli nor on lemmy.ml. Both are on the same community, but I managed to comment later on that community. Do you know what may have gone wrong?

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[–] heluecht@pirati.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

@Liwott It is the same community and the same Friendica server in both cases? Are there any differences? Possibly one is a reply to a comment and the other one a reply to the starting post?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can you tell me how to find the id of the create activity for these notes? Then i can check the server logs for errors.

By the way, i noticed that Friendica publicly lists all the users who liked or disliked a post. That is supposed to be private in Lemmy (only used to calculate the score).

[–] Informapirata@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I did four tests from four accounts I own, all from the same friendica instance (poliverso.org):

  1. OK from a personal account: https://lemmy.ml/post/219638/comment/151329
  2. OK from a personal "sandbox" account: https://lemmy.ml/post/219638/comment/151337
  3. OK from a "news" account: https://lemmy.ml/post/219638/comment/151338

4) NOK from an "organization" type account: https://poliverso.org/display/0477a01e-1462-4de8-65bd-587299275161

It seems clear to me therefore that the problem lies in the fact that Lemmy accepts messages from the first three types, but not from an organization page. I hazard a guess (but I'm not a technician): is it possible that the "organization" account type in friendica corresponds to a lemmy account type that is not compatible with the answers (perhaps it corresponds to the "community" lemmy account type)?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are right, Lemmy only supports Group, Person and Service (same as Person, but marked as bot). Does a Friendica Organization work in the same way as a Person?

[–] heluecht@pirati.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

@nutomic @Informapirata It works exactly the same. We do support all available types. But with the exception of Group they behave the same.

[–] liwott@nerdica.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

@heluecht @sexy_peach @Liwott Yes, all three of them (including the one that got through). One of those who didn't was posted by a user on a different instance. I'm noticing now that the two comments in question have in common that they carry hashtags, maybe that plays a role?

[–] heluecht@pirati.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

@liwott @sexy_peach @Liwott Existing or nonexisting hashtags are no problem. But when you say that the one that didn't went through had been from a difference instance, then possibly this is the reason.

[–] liwott@nerdica.net 1 points 2 years ago

Hashtags seem to be the problem, at least that's what comes out from very simple tests I just ran :

@liwott@nerdica.net:

This looks like pointless simple commenting, but the reason was very simple :
- tests 2, 3 and 6 were delivered to lemmy.ml instantaneously
- test 1, 4 and 5 are still underway, seemingly because
- 1 contains a hashtag
- 4 contained one, and editing it out didn't help
- 5 is a reply to 4

Hashtag seems to be the culprit

@heluecht
cc : @dessalines @nutomic

[–] liwott@nerdica.net 1 points 2 years ago

@heluecht @sexy_peach @erpicht @Liwott @ksynwa @nutomic I thought that for a moment too but

  • that's only one of the two
  • it also does not appear when looking at the post in lemmy.ml
[–] Informapirata@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, these are accounts of the same friendica instance managed with the same privacy policies and which always respond to the first post lemmy

[–] macfranc@poliverso.org 0 points 2 years ago

@Liwott Can you read this message?

[–] macfranc@poliverso.org 0 points 2 years ago

@Liwott I think I understand the problem. I am able to reply on lemmy with this personal account, but I cannot reply with my account @informapirata (which is an "organization" type friendica account), probably because on lemmy he can only write a personal account. Take away a curiosity, is your liwott@nerdica.net account an organization account (or maybe a sandbox account that works the same way)?

[–] notizie@poliverso.org 0 points 2 years ago

@Liwott I'm always macfranc. Now I try to reply from this news type account

[–] privacypost@poliverso.org 0 points 2 years ago

@Liwott I'm always macfranc. Now I try to answer from this personal sandbox account