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Note that this is subtly different from the “one level in every class” thing; this is about taking your levels one at a time, starting from level 1, rather than a fully-finished level 13 concept.

Could this be at all viable? What order would you go with?

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[–] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is just terrible.

I could maybe see a reason to stack multiple spellcasting classes, e.g. Sorc 1 (Con saves, spell slots, Subclass feature, Silvery Barbs) -> Order Cleric 1 (Heavy Armor, Voice of Authority, more spell slots) -> Wizard 1 (Rituals, more spell slots) -> Warlock 1 (Subclass feature, short rest pact slot, Armor of Agathys) -> Bard 1 (more spell slots) -> Druid 1 (more spell slots) -> Artificer 1 (more spell slots). That gets you to be a 6th level spellcaster and 1st level warlock in terms of spell slots, which you spend on things like Healing Word, Bless, Silvery Barbs, etc to proc Voice of Authority. Out of combat you cast a bunch of 1st level rituals and pretty much all the cantrips. Go with a +4 race that nets you 25ft move speed in heavy armor (Fleet of Foot Wood Half Elf or Mountain Dwarf), upcast Armor of Agathys to 3rd level, and go wade into melee, being obnoxious and begging to get hit.

Make sure you die before you hit level 8, b/c the martial classes offer you nothing with only 1 level each. If you do somehow survive and have to take them anyway, go for Rogue & Fighter first (Sneak attack and fighting style, probably Archery, to sometimes be able to hit with a ranged weapon), then Barb (big hit die, since you're committed to not dying), Ranger (Expertise), Paladin, and finally Monk (the saddest of all capstones).

[–] d20bard@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

I'll give an honest try.

Your build will rely heavily on magic items and a cooperative DM. That's 1 uncommon at level 1, a rare at level 5, and a very rare at level 11.

Custom lineage 13/13/8/13/13/14(+2) Feat: Resilient Wisdom (the only feat you'll get so it should be this)

Magic item: Cloak of Elvenkind (for hiding)

  1. Sorcerer, Aberrant mind - Gets CON/CHA saves. Con is good for when people hand you scrolls to concentrate on and CHA is the only thing you're good at. Has mind sliver (to support your allies' actually useful spells) and dissonant wispers to chase things away. Can telepathically talk. Also take shield, silvery barbs, and chromatic orb. Stay away from the front, hide, and pray.

  2. Rogue - expertise in stealth and perception. At least you can be a scout with your hiding and telepathy.

  3. Cleric, order - heavy armor and you can let your stronger allies attack more with voice of authority. Also grab healing word.

  4. Bard - more caster progression and some d8's to help your friends. Tasha's hideous laughter might do well long term.

  5. Warlock, hexblade - in case you really need to hit something with a rapier, now you can use CHA

Magic item: Amulet of Health (suddenly you can be a frontline distraction!)

At this point things aren't too bad. You can scout or shield/rapier with 20 AC, +1d6 sneak, upcast dissonant whispers/chromatic orb, and support your friends a little with silvery barbs/d8s/mind sliver. Sadly, out side of more slots and some hp you start getting nothing from here on out.

  1. Wizard - full caster, get utility spells

  2. Druid - full caster, utility

  3. Artificer - half caster

  4. Ranger - half caster

  5. Paladin - half caster

  6. Barbarian - d12 hp

Magic item: +3 amulet of of the devout (gives +3 to all spell DC's and spell attacks)

  1. Fighter - d10 hp

  2. Monk - yey

[–] jake_eric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm imagining that the best way to do it and actually be at least somewhat useful to the party is to get bless and healing word as soon as possible and just do that as much as possible, probably using your remaining actions to stay out of the way of danger. Out of combat you actually should have a decent amount of low level spells and cantrips to be pretty handy. Still not great but there are probably less useful characters people make.

So, start with Divine Soul Sorcerer for the Con saves, then take a level in one of the Clerics that gives you good armor. You don't have the Strength for heavy armor I'd guess but I think it's still worth it anyway, otherwise your party may find it to not be worthwhile to keep saving you. You should definitely take shield for that, too. By 5th level you should take a level in Warlock for eldritch blast, since that's the best damage you're going to get.

There is the alternative of focusing on eldritch blast and taking Warlock as your first level, that should let you take Agonizing Blast with Eldritch Adapt as your 1st level V-Human feat. Then you're as set for damage as you can be for your whole career. This is something of a generic take and it does mean you miss out on Con save proficiency; since your Constitution score is probably gonna be pretty weak with all this multiclassing, I think the proficiency is important.

Level order isn't super important outside of that, but take the caster classes first for more slots. The martials don't give you as much and I think Monk gives you basically nothing.