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Classic idiots (i.imgur.com)

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[–] zazaserty@discuss.tchncs.de 119 points 1 year ago (42 children)

The problem here is that we all lose. They ignored the warnings about climate change but now we all suffer the effects of it.

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[–] Elden_Potato@reddthat.com 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Imagine hating a child for "shuffles deck" caring about the planet she lives on.

[–] Ktheone@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

No-no-no-no-no Dont you understand?? She's one of those extreme esss-jay-double-uuu libearls!!

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How to tell the world your testosterone levels have peaked and the decline is making you a bit cranky.

[–] StrayRedditor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Peaked? I haven’t even begun to peak. And when I do peak, you’ll know. Because I’m gonna peak so hard that everybody in Lemmy’s gonna feel it. I shall unleash my fury upon you like the crashing of a thousand waves! Begone, vile little girl! Begone from me! This car is a finisher car! A transporter of gods! The golden god! I am untethered, and my rage knows no bounds!

[–] raspberry_confetti@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

She's living in their heads rent free

[–] jose423@lemmy.jgholistic.com 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Humans will come and go. The earth will continue doing it's thing. I'm more concerned with the crazies throwing trash out of their cars or not bringing their shopping cart to the shopping cart areas.

[–] newguy208@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

In the words of late great George Carlin, "The planet is not going anywhere. We are. We're going away."

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mother Nature reminding humans that she's going to be fine and they're only killing themselves

[–] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not the same car.

[–] joolez@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But thats how to get attention.

It's a big problem that even if the situation describes itself people make collages of pictures that have no direct relation just to make a point.

Ironically this behavior undermines the actual goal because it shifts the debatte to "this is fake" not to "Housten, we have a problem.".

And most ironically: My comment underlines the debatte shift even more.

Hoomans are fucked.

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[–] somada2kk@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

That's not human but corporation with inability to fix products, shrinkflation, shortening life cycle of product with software update.

We are paying higher price but corporations are using raw metrials and power inefficient

[+] ricecake@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People love this "gotcha", but really it just shows how terrible cars are on a fundamental level.

The solution isn't electric cars, it's electric micromobility and public transport.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 23 points 1 year ago

It's always "ah ha but did you know it's only 80% better for the planet? Gotcha, idiot!" Like yeah, we know.

The best solution is not to drive at all, but if we're forced to in this backwards country that has been mislead to believe public transport is a bad thing then we might as well take the option that's 80% better rather than 0% better

[–] Querk@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Gasoline cars produce, on average, about ten times more lifetime pollution compared to manufacturing pollution. So even if electric car manufacturing pollutes a bit more, it more than makes up for it over its lifetime of driving.

Your other claim that batteries can't be recycled is false. And that recycling pollutes more. More than 90% of battery materials by mass can and do get recycled - and the expectation is to reach 98+%. Recycling process is expected to produce less pollution and be cheaper than mining the equivalent amounts of material.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago

I don't get how the "lithium batteries can't be recycled" idea passes the sniff test.

Lithium mining requires moving insane amounts of earth to reach the ore: often a pit mine. Said ore contains around 1-2% Lithium Oxide by weight -- which still needs to be refined and processed into Lithium metal.

A battery is around 11% Lithium by weight.

There's money to be made, and people are already on it.

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[–] onparole@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

You don't know. You said it.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 12 points 1 year ago

Electric cars are certainly better. The climate crisis is extremely bad. A significant percentage of the Earth will no longer be livable without AC within decades. Much of our ecosystems depended on a temperature range we won't see again within our lifetimes. It's much more likely to be our great filter than batteries are.

Someday we'll envy how popular the Baby Boomers were in their old age. They didn't understand, we do. We should be rioting, everywhere.

(I understand busses and trains are better still, I'm just addressing their not knowing which is worse)

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The ~90,000 shipping freighters that operate daily use twice the amount of fuel than all ~2.5 billion personal vehicles that are on the roads globally. We're electrifying the wrong shit.

[–] RexRegum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

And how do you plan on electrifying such massive ships?

Electrifying cars is easy and electrified railways have existed for more than a century now, but good luck electrifying airplanes or cargo ships, they’re just too big and don’t run on tracks

[–] radau@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Start with banning nonessentials such as cruise ships and get rid of private jets while we're at it, to start at least.

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[–] jannis@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

It's way easier to electrify cars than cargo ships, because you can refuel/recharge cars every few kilometres. This is simply not possible with ships, other more expensive technologies like hydrogen or artificial fuels are needed. Electrifying cars also helps to reduce other emissions like nitrogen oxides and particulate matter, which is good for your health.

[–] maggoats@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's actually not true, right? https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/global-co2-emissions-from-transport-by-sub-sector-in-the-net-zero-scenario-2000-2030

In 2019 there are 6.08 Gt from road vehicles compared to the 0.87 Gt from shipping. That's just overwhelming.

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[–] ShakyPerception@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I thought climate change was all my fault, and that if I just use less water in my garden everything will be fixed.

Are you saying that the news lied to me?!?

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is all our fault, just not for the reasons you mentioned. It's our fault for allowing it to happen, it's out fault for voting for capitalism, it's our fault for being undereducated, it's our fault for not stopping it. The problem isn't that it's our fault, the problem is that we haven't killed anyone over their exploitation of us and our planet yet, except ourselves.

Society breeds civility through cowardice, we know this because it's immortal to attack a bad actor.

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[–] vreraan@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know either, but thinking about all the pollution it takes to refine and transport the fuel, I still think electric cars pollute much less.

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