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[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 95 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This fucking loser also lies to people that he's the reason OpenAI exists LMFAO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWr-DA5Wjfw ("Elon Musk on Sam Altman and ChatGPT: I am the reason OpenAI exists")

[–] pumpsnabben@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was and still is the largest contributor of funds when OpenAI was founded, he is also one of the founders.

This is not to say that OpenAI wouldn't exist without him but he did contribute massively to its economy.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, I'm not discrediting him. I'm just pointing out that he gives all the credit to himself like he always does with everything he touches.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of a certain felonious ex president.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That's what rich people do, capital is all the provide. Marx nailed this shit down like two centuries ago.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Altman's views on melon musk also don't speak well about himself: https://youtu.be/L_Guz73e6fw?t=4925

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Incase anyone wanted to know the timeline:

Tesla was incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors. The company's name is a tribute to inventor and electrical engineer . In February 2004, via a $6.5 million investment, Elon Musk became the company's largest shareholder. He became CEO in 2008.

[–] jagged@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

There’s some irony that a company named after an overlooked inventor was founded by two overlooked inventors…

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

$6.5 million

For $6.5 million he became CEO of what became an $800 billion dollar company? That's not bad.

[–] mtpunkty@lemmynsfw.com 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] DFTBA_FTW@lemmy.fmhy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are a lot of reasons to dislike Musk, this is not one of them.

When Elon came on board Tesla their business plan was to buy existing super cars and an existing electric drive train and then convert the super cars.

This was all going to be done by hand in a workshop. They would do dozens of cars a year.

Without Elon that's what they would be doing, he was behind the transition to building their own vehicles on their production lines and volumes comparable to normal manufacturers.

That's why he won his lawsuit to be listed as a founder.

[–] foobaz@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

No, that's not how it went down. Watch this interview with them: https://youtu.be/eblPwXFb7TE

They had the full plan laid out (start with expensive sports cars, then step by step move into mass market) and got Musk involved using it as a proposal.

[–] toasteranimation@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reason to dislike him in this instance is that he takes ALL the credit for the company’s success, never mentioning these two or Tesla’s beginnings

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[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

On top of that, they're both very rich now because of Tesla's success. There's really no reason to pity these guys.

[–] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Muskrat just takes the credit and drums up some hype. I wonder what his newest unfeasible project will be? I bet it's something safe and reliable!

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[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I hate elon as well but I have to give it to him, not everyone with money can scale a company like he did. People say elon's dad was rich and he bought all the companies, this might be true but there are many people with rich dad's but not everyone can take a company to a level where Tesla, spacex and others are.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

You're saying that like he scaled it with profits. This is all taxpayer money and grifting.

Tesla exploded during the start of EVs, and has only devalued since. SpaceX is run by crazy engineers, not Musk, and is all paid for by taxpayers and carbon offsets.

Twitter is an example of a company where Musk is left at the helm, alone.

[–] toasteranimation@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He must have a brilliant team

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Elon maybe have done too many drugs because his discourse is completely different to a decade ago.

He may always have been an asshole but he had some sense of proportion, in his public pronouncements at least.

He either dropped the mask, or he has fucked himself up somehow. Possibly a bit of both.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Nah, it's the result of "yes man" culture.

He thought he was always right, because he thinks he's smart.

So if an employee disagreed with him, it's because they weren't smart. So he got rid of them and promoted people who would agree with them.

After a couple years that means everyone around him would just agree and tell Elon he was a genius.

With no constructive criticism, he'd start making wilder plans, and everyone would still call him a genius. And it just spirals.

He went full Kanye, never go full Kanye.

[–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I always figured it was a social networking addiction, combined with his fans replying to him and agreeing with everything he said constantly, some of whom are Nazis

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[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is all true:

Not everyone with money could build two huge successful companies (and let's face it, while he didn't found Tesla, the company wouldn't be this successful without him).

Someone without money (as in, at least multiple millions) could never do this, no matter how talented.

Elon Musk has repeatedly beaten the odds when everyone was telling him that it's impossible or stupid. He did this at least 3 times. But this breaks a man. He starts to think that every idea of his is a good one, especially when everyone else is telling him it's stupid. A good example is George Lucas, prequels ~~and sequels~~ were the way they were because he didn't have to listen to anyone, so he didn't.

[–] RichardButt89@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FYI: George Lucas wasn't involved with the sequels. He sold the rights to Star Wars to Disney in 2012.

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[–] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.fmhy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In June 2009, Eberhard brought a lawsuit against Elon Musk for libel, slander, and breach of contract, alleging that Musk pushed him out of the company, publicly disparaged him, and compromised Tesla's financial health.[16] In August 2009, Eberhard dropped the lawsuit for undisclosed reasons

[–] a_spooky_specter@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

The undisposed reasons were money. Lots of money.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, I thought it was the same guy who invented Twitter and brought back free speech!?

[–] Hikiru@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Nothing says “free speech” like classifying the word “cis” as a slur

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will be stepping down in ~7-14 days any suggestions on how to find someone that could take care of this community better than me? Thank you.

[–] antony@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lol man just gave his 2 weeks notice for modding the antiwork community

[–] Kofu@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Me and all my homies hate elon....

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now that tesla pictured is the one that was launched into space, right?

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