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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, the blog starts with an interview with an opinion that any steps to further green initiatives are not an actual solution. Any ground gained by such advances will be filled with more human mouths to feed. Just like when we pioneered new farming techniques to harvest better yields, we did not use that knowledge to farm smaller plots more efficiently. No we grew the fields to pump more profit out of the soil, lowered the cost of food and surged our population growth. We did not solve world hunger. The thought rings true and distressing. But the author disagrees. The author instead hopes that humans will suddenly mature and start doing whats right seemingly randomly. They put forward that wolves became dogs due to a change in genes. But that was not in a vacuum. This is bringing up a problem and then loudly announcing that we should all ignore it?

[–] Hanrahan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its a common miconception about good faith actors . we havent started to accexot the science in all of this, let alone agree to solutions like Degrowth. You just have to look to the political dwoxurse for evidence.of that.

Plan for the worst and hooe for the best is aboit all we have

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Plans imply action. We have already failed the hope for the best part long before we were born. I don’t see any plans being made, other then the Uber rich going to mars and taking a cadre of slaves with them. I don’t know an answer that doesn’t involve tyranny, but hoping that humans change their nature by some miracle as the author suggests is as foolish as it is dangerous.