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Who even needs investigative journalists with hidden cameras when there's Israeli state television

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[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 129 points 9 months ago (90 children)

This is what it would’ve been like in Germany 1943 if the Nazis had television.

[–] nte@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

1943 is not that long ago, television existed, especially in Germany.> Television in Germany began in Berlin on 22 March 1935, broadcasting for 90 minutes three times a week. It was home to the first public television station in the world, named Fernsehsender Paul Nipkow.>

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wow. I had no idea. Not many common volk would’ve had television though eh? Sounds like an luxury reserved for the rich.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

Also here's the IDF broadcasting themselves arresting random people in Gaza who end up there.

The IDF seems to imply that they get tortured into saying they are Hamas

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even the old “state v non-state actor” issue is clear on this one - irregardless of human morality and basic decency:

  • If legit army, they must get full protections (IDF says no, int’l law is dubious for Al-Qassam - Hamas has command structure and salaries, but often skips uniforms and hides among the populace)
  • If not legit army, must be treated with protection offered to civilians UNTIL a court gets involved and adjudicates them to not be just civilians

Article 11 - Protection of persons

  1. The physical or mental health and integrity of persons who are in the power of the adverse Party or who are interned, detained or otherwise deprived of liberty as a result of a situation referred to in Article 1 shall not be endangered by any unjustified act or omission

[further down in same text]

Article 45 - Protection of persons who have taken part in hostilities

  1. A person who takes part in hostilities and falls into the power of an adverse Party shall be presumed to be a prisoner of war… Should any doubt arise as to whether any such person is entitled to the status of prisoner of war, he shall continue to have such status and, therefore, to be protected by the Third Convention and this Protocol until such time as his status has been determined by a competent tribunal.

  2. If a person who has fallen into the power of an adverse Party is not held as a prisoner of war and is to be tried by that Party for an offence arising out of the hostilities, he shall have the right to assert his entitlement to prisoner-of-war status before a judicial tribunal and to have that question adjudicated…[more legalese and closing loopholes]…

  3. Any person who has taken part in hostilities, who is not entitled to prisoner-of-war status and who does not benefit from more favourable treatment in accordance with the Fourth Convention shall have the right at all times to the protection of Article 75 of this Protocol. In occupied territory, any such person, unless he is held as a spy, shall also be entitled, notwithstanding Article 5 of the Fourth Convention, to his rights of communication under that Convention.

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[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"What was on Oct 7th will not return."

Pretty sure this is how you fast-track yourself into another one, chief.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, obviously. How else are they gonna manufacture their next causus belli?

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

the lesson Israel is gonna learn from this is how to separate the "most moral army in the world/we have a right to defend ourselves" propaganda intended for the global audience from the "we children of light shall bathe in the blood of the animals/no palestinian is innocent every man, woman and child must be tortured to death" propaganda that, until now, was kept internal.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can someone link to the video? I tried finding it on youtube but can't. It would be good to have some context.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Twitter has posts about it. It's all rather sectioned apart I haven't seen the full video. Here's another video

A twitter post: https://twitter.com/CensoredNws/status/1759707936937456108

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok so straight out of the Guantanamo bay playbook then?

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

we teach their army how to torture, their army teaches our police how to murder, one hand washes the blood off the other

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