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Canada is among many NATO allies of Ukraine who signed 2010 pact to ban cluster munition use

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[–] Questy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

There is no controversy. Canada is not providing the weapons. The US and Ukraine are not signatory to the ban. Story doesn't exist. Sigh

[–] yarn@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I have this correct:

  • US, Ukraine, and Russia never signed on to the pact to ban cluster munitions
  • Cluster munitions would be highly effective at clearing out Russia's entrenched defensive lines
  • Ukraine is specifically requesting the munitions from the US
  • Western artillery ammo is starting to run short, so cluster munitions are needed to buy time until artillery shell production ramps up next spring
  • Russia is extensively using cluster munitions in Ukraine right now, and their munitions have a much worse dud rate than the western cluster munitions, so there's an argument that preventing Russia from being able to use their shittier cluster munitions is better in the long run

It sucks, but welcome to war

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... nothing else is going to clear out those massive trench systems as efficiently. Maybe a big thermobaric, but those are huge, bordering on WMDs.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Eine neue Wunderwaffe, nicht wahr?

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