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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"LIBERALS just listen to ACTORS and CELEBRITIES who TELL THEM WHAT TO THINK"

Meanwhile, a gold idol of a B-lister stands at the RNC...

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Trump was the loudest, but he was a big dumb animal who didn't know or care how the machine worked. Younger Americans especially don't understand the depth of the tangible damage Reagan did legislatively and culturally. History will likely remember His tenure as the root instigator of our eventual collapse.

He converted his former opposition into bribe taking neoliberals while legislating giving EVERYTHING to the rich with the lie of it raining down prosperity on all... someday lol. Almost all the economic pain most Americans are feeling today is due to Reagan's lasting changes to what our economy and tax structure rewards, and our warped, irrational cultural perception of the role of the economy and the need to regulate it.

If I could snap my fingers and undo either Trump or Reagan's presidency, it wouldn't be a contest. Trump is just yet another symptom of the cult of willful ignorance Reagan Republicans cultivated.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, if we're finger-snapping people I'd have started with Nixon. Much of what Reagan was, Nixon paved the way for. Most of the modern GOP's playbook can be traced back to Nixon -- that includes the overt racism, the antisemitism, the warmongering, the proto-fascist behavior, the war on drugs, all of it.

Nixon is the original ratfucker. His second term was explicitly all about getting revenge on his perceived "enemies." Sound familiar? Nixon said in an interview, "When the President does it, that means it's not illegal." Sound familiar? When he was under investigation regarding the Watergate break-in, he responded by firing the attorney general in charge of investigating him. Sound familiar?

It's uncanny. Where he faltered was just being so blatantly unlikable. If Nixon had managed to be charismatic in addition to remaining as much of an utter bastard as he was, I think the world would be an even worse place today than it is already.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

Fault!

Funny that we’d have never known he blew this shot without photographic evidence. Just like how he might not have had to resign if he hadn’t taped all his conversations.

That’s the other thing I blame Nixon for. Teaching the next rounds of scumbags to cover their tracks better.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

I've heard it said, and I really believe it is true, that if you assume everything awful in the world is Reagan's fault you'll be right significantly more often than you are wrong.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

As an activist, this is funny to me. This is word for word one of the arguments people make against lowering the voting age.

But you remind them that old people elected Reagan and Trump and all of a sudden ThAtS dIfFeRenT.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

B-lister is quite a promotion for him.

[–] jabeez@kbin.social 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

*endorsed the one candidate who's not a fascist conman, rapist, and overall piece of shit human being. Yeah, weird, must be a conspiracy!

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'll never forgive Biden for the draconian shit he spearheaded in the 90s as a Senator. I consider him to be a piece of shit human being. That said, he's Steve Rogers compared to Trump and he has my enthusiastic vote as least worst by by leaps and bounds.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Eh....Steve Rogers is taking it a bit far.

Maybe Scott Lang. Or Clint Barton.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Scott Lang is a dude I could hang with. Cheerfully.

Steve and Clint: hmmm moralizing or agonizing. Tough choice. I'd stay home.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ooh, he's MODOK after his redemption believing he was an avenger just before he died.

Appropriate given how his Senate career contrasts with decent things he's done as President.

[–] CommunicationOk3492@feddit.de 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This stuff makes me really wonder, how much Americans really believe whatever the rightwings are peddling… On Twitter they’re now peddling all the time this „great replacement“ stuff and that illegal immigrants will vote for Biden(???). Do they really believe that and does a big chunk of Americans believe that?

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 15 points 9 months ago

Republicans have been cutting school funding for decades for this exact purpose.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes a lot of Americans believe those things, because there is an entire economic sector devoted to telling Republicans what they want to hear, presented as news/facts.

These are fearful people.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes

We all seek information that confirms our biases, and conservatives are ruled by their fear, largely of the other: People that don't look or act like what they consider normal and safe. They don't want to hear its their employer's greed that's been screwing them for decades and ruining their community's commons for tax breaks, that would make them feel foolish. They want to hear about how all their problems are caused by the people that don't look or act like them, be it race or the people they think dress wrong to them.

Simple explanations for simple, fearful people. The world and it's many crises are obviously more complex than those false, blatant scapegoating explanations of "Them poor brown immigrant people caused inflation!" but confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. They like ms blonde "news" anchor telling them their impulse of clutching their purse or re-locking their car door in the presence of urban people was completely valid.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My impression is that the dumber ones believe whatever is being shoveled at them in the moment and then quickly forget about it as soon as whatever the new outrage is hits, while the smarter ones just use the outrage for attention.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Most of the immigrants I know on unironically vote Trump...

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unless there's new news (heh) she didn't endorse Biden recently. She just said to register to vote.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I know, I just think it's ridiculous and funny at their expense that something as historically common, mundane, and benign as An American celebrity even potentially making an endorsement has become a vast conspiracy to Republicans, especially considering they literally vote in celebrities to be President.

So it's somehow wrong for a celebrity to weigh in with their opinion on politics, but feel free to run for the role of most powerful politician of all? I know they have no such logic or rationality, but it's still funny when they exercise their nonsensical world view for all to see unironically.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Could be the even more mundane her saying "register to vote".

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

"Gubmit" killed me

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i prefer to remember his as a professional wrestler. it makes me feel like mike judge is a prophet.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Idiocracy came out in 2006. Trump went to Wrestlemania in 2007.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll have what she's having!

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

No time to lose! I'll explain on the way!!

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 9 months ago

One of the weirdest things about American culture is celebrity support for political parties.

I mean I get why it's done, but where I live pop culture idols usually don't do political recommendations. It's considered crass.