if only I had known this earlier
this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
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I mean you have 2 comments total (this one and a duplicate of this one) it isn't really too late ;)
I hope you have learned the error of your ways
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if only I had known this earlier
lol
This is good to know. Upvoted for visibility.
This is the way
This is the way
People are forgetting that a lot of these Lemmy servers are being run by just a couple people, sometimes with a server in their basement lol
Or literal closet. >_>
This is good to know. Upvoted for visibility.
This is good to know. Upvoted for visibility.
You should also know you can join smaller instances to help alleviate this problem. You'll still see most of the same content, especially if the instance has active users. Don't be too shy to sign up on some random instance, worse case scenario you just don't get approved.
I joined my instance after being on Lemmy.ml about a month ago for a day, and there was so much lag because it was the largest instance at the time. I then switched to my current instance when it only had ~50 users on it and it made the world of a difference. I went from seeing the site crash every 5 seconds and posts taking 30 seconds to submit, to having a stable connection to the Fediverse.
Overall, I feel like everyone should try to join smaller instances to distribute the load so that you don’t have a bad experience, and the instances don’t get overwhelmed. It’s a win-win for everyone.
Just to add to this, at least in wefwef, I sometimes get an error when I tap Post, saying that it failed. I am then left on the page, and can hit Post again. But it didn’t fail the first time, the post was made.
So this is not just users being impatient. There is a bug.
Might be due to either the websocket removal, or the sluggishness that does it.
The post processes, but the app doesn't get a response confirming that the post has been made, so it sits there until the app times out.
I have not written real code for a very long time, and I don’t know the lemmy code base at all… but I described this bug to GPT-4 and it just turned me on to idempotency.
https://stripe.com/blog/idempotency
The call could succeed, but the connection breaks before the server can tell its client about it.
Seems like it’s non-trivial to implement in rust.
I've had the same on Liftoff
See what I did there....?
I've had the same on Liftoff
It's just Lemmy admins trying to give us the true Reddit experience
You know, we don't have to copy everything from Reddit. Although it is pretty funny that we have exactly the same bug lol
I expect some aspects of the internet will never change
Funny enough, this post is still "submitting" Image of the submit button still spinning on this post
Just get off .World and onto another instance and it’s smooth sailing with mobile apps working great too.
programming.dev is getting to be pretty damn slow too...
Comments post in 5-30 seconds, and up votes can take 30+ seconds to post. Searches are pointless, and loading comments can be a repetitive painful process of reloading till it works (504 gateway timeout)
Unless you try to interact with .world
Yes! The Lemmy devs should make it so that you can't hit the submit button 10 times in a row. People hit submit and nothing happens so they hit it again and again and again. Now there's a bunch of identical posts.
I remember the old days where sites would have a message saying "only hit submit once". That's gone now since sites prevent users from hitting submit more than once. I don't think Lemmy is doing that though!
You should be able to hit the submit button as many times as you want, but it should have a single transaction ID so the server can ignore duplicate submissions.
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It's problematic because often you'll get an error that says it failed to post the comment. In which case it's fair to try again, but it actually posted anyways.
Sounds like a bug to be that needs to be ironed out on the backend 😉
I can confirm this is true in Jerboa; learned the other day the hard way.
...And I learned that I need to copy the whole comment I type before submit jic my comment didn't upload, at least I have my comment restored.
I said I was sorry... Gosh
Resubmitting is the reasonable response to an error that said it failed. Lemmy should add some sort of duplicate message prevention when they have the time to improve the ux.
Admin needs to sticky something to this effect.
What I do (web browser) is simply refresh the community to see if the post has posted yet. If it hasn't, I try again. Around a third of the time you get spinny wheel though, it actually did submit, and just forgot to let you know.
Also note that if a large amount of time has passed while you're writing a response, you'll sort of time out, and the first attempt to post won't work, but because it's refreshing your session. The second attempt will post
Even for short ones, it seems to happen always for me if I reply to one person, then try to write a top-level reply after that.
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I literally posted the same comment 8 times because of that 💀💀💀
Does it show up repeatedly on your profile? I used to use that as a way to track double posting on reddit
I was wondering the same thing because I've definitely pushed submit multiple times but in my profile it only shows the comments once.
I've been finding uploading images to be very confusing as the 'upload file' and 'From url' buttons don't seem to do anything
The problem is a UI thing too. In wefwef for example half the time you go to post something and it says ‘error posting’, your comment actually did post. But sometimes it doesn’t.
I typically go until I see success and then delete any duplicates I left on accident.
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