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What the title says. I think there is still a long way for that to happen but i've been hopeful. What do you think?

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I'm already there, and acknowledge my sample size is low. :)

[–] stackPeek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean... Reddit itself is already very niche

Lemmy probably won't every be mainstream. Mastodon, probably, not confident about it.

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[–] bledley@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

mainstream's not all it's cracked up to be..

[–] Socialphilosopher@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

No. But this is not important for me. Where is the crowd? Shit is there.

[–] theostermanweekend@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I remember reading old science fiction stories where a freer,more bottom up kind of internet existed. Maybe, maybe, maybe we can get a kind of thing like that? We have the technology. Why not?

[–] markpaskal@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I think Lemmy is coming along nicely. There is lots of content for me to consume. I am on lemmy.ca so I haven't seen any of the bugs other people are talking about, it just works except for subscribing to places on the busy instances which shows pending for a while.

People will get used to how this works and I think it snowballs from here.

[–] Oka@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the idea of a federation: websites being able to talk to each other, could be mainstream. I don't think lemmy will be mainstream, but I do think lemmy will be able to talk to mainstream websites on the federation.

What if you could use your lemmy account to buy stuff online, book a flight, pay bills, sign up for streaming services, etc.? The federation isn't seeing its full potential.

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[–] Mastersord@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I’m hopeful but it will take a while. I want to see where we are in 6 months from now. Apps need to be pushed to the stores (at least on iOS).

That being said, it needs protocols for migrating instances when an instance is dead or about to die. Then there are some privacy concerns and such. It’s also not clear how it all can sustain monetarily except via donations.

But seeing the recent growth spurts and increase in new posts, I am still hopeful that this place has staying power.

[–] ThatOtherDude@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yes. I am a typical reddit user and Lemmy is simply a better product.

[–] ReepusVanguard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Eventually, yes.

[–] Wxfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No, not by a long shot. They suffer the Linux problem because they are built and maintained by groups with narrow, specific, principled goals. Like Linux, fedi-services offer at best a 95% solution for the average user, and introduce a fair bit of friction to general usability. For some people that’s not a problem, they are willing to jump through some usability hoops because they find value in the concepts of decentralization and federated services. But most users just want to shitpost, troll, collect karma, and be with their friends. That place for better or worse is still mainstream services and it likely will be for as long as they exist.

Linux suffers from “works for me”, and “I don’t need that feature” by a lot of developers and maintainers of various distros. We already see that from Lemmy with the dev being clear that he isn’t going to be working on anything but bug fixes and if you want a feature then you have to build it yourself. But even worse was the removal of captchas in 0.18.0 and it took a fair bit of back and forth with the admins of various large instances pointing out that captchas, while not perfect, are really the only thing holding back giant waves of bot signups.

So while lemmy, kbin, mastodon, etc. may work fine for the devs and 10%ers, for the masses it’s just too much friction when Reddit, twitter, etc still exist and they aren’t principled in the same ways such that they will put up with the inconveniences for a solution that only meets most of their needs when one that meets all their needs and has none of those inconveniences works fine still.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

No, but it's a step in the right direction to rolling back Web 2.0 and the utter shitshow it's turned into.

Open protocols and no single company in charge is like IRC, newsgroups and so on, before we traded it all in for a nicer UI and handing all our data to future billionaires.

It needs to be able to evolve though. IRC could have become Discord, but we just abandoned it. Watch that do the same as everyone else over the next few years, as all those venture capitalists start asking for their money back.

[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I do. What I am looking for is federated/web3 replacements for Instagram, and some kind of well encrypted, decentralized messenger app

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Signal is well encrypted and very much respects privacy of data, but I don't think it's federated. It can interface with normal texts though iirc

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

See "Threads" from meta it tries to go on the fediverse

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