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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] maketotaldestr0i@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit i was really just hoping that 2023 was an anomaly and now i see we are in the next level of "oh shit!"

No recovery back towards old trend yet. This could be snowballing, or eh uh i guess the opposite of snowballing. ?Fireballing?

This could be a system perturbed into a new higher equilibrium but with the feedback who knows how far this can go. blue ocean arctic ☠️

[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I didn't click the link until I read this comment. It's early, took a moment to decipher the graph, but, my thought process was, oh wow! Oh no! Wtf 😬🫠

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

More is better, yeah? 🙃

Forget about polynomial/exponential growth. Stop worrying. Everything is fine™️

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

This just brings the peak closer. Watch Permian closely within the next 5 years. Of course you can cook shale kerogen and oil sands with nuke and renewable, but the product price is eyewatering and the volume not there. The party is ending.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago
[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Looks like el Niño is deflating.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago
[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

El Niño now over. It's starting getting interesting.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

While we do have a flatter curve the lingering trend is still up while in all the plotted years before it should have by now trended way down. Most unhappy graph.