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Hello everyone,

There has been a lot of new traffic to Lemmy in the past few weeks due to the turmoil at Reddit. A lot of you may be Reddit refugees, like I am, and are missing their old favorite subs right about now.

I think it's more important than ever for regular users to step up and take an active role in rebuilding their communities, and I wasn't sure that things would ever get going unless somebody stepped up to the plate and made the effort, and I didn't want to wait around for someone else to take the initiative when I already had a strong desire to see this sort of content brought over to Lemmy.

Now that the first step has been taken, I'm inviting others who might be interested in building or managing this community to join me in making this the best version of asksciencefiction possible.

I have never been affiliated with /r/asksciencefiction or even been a moderator at reddit before. Preferably, I would like to hand off ownership of this community to somebody who has a strong desire to build and grow the community and enforce the rules. If that sounds like something you are interested in, please don't hesitate to send me a private message.

Thank you!

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[–] Vote_for_Knife_Party@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi, I'm Vote_for_Knife_Party on here and over on Reddit, one of the mods of r/asksciencefiction. In terms of credentials, the main thing I have to offer is a link to our Discord (which is identical to the link currently posted on our "we're closed" screen over on Reddit) https://discord.gg/aSMMUECz. If you pop over there, you can see where this version of AS:F has come up in discussion in the "general" area, as well as message the AS:F mods collectively to verify my identity.

From a purely mechanical perspective, there's not much we can do to stop you from running your own Ask Science: Fiction over here on Lemmy; it's a space on it's own and we have no control over it. That said, if you're going to be operating under that name I'd recommend more or less copying our rules re: the watsonian/doylist split, as well as the shift away from roleplayed answers. First, being flexible on doylist answers is going to result in a LOT of trash cluttering up people's answers; 1 time out of a hundred we lose an interesting response because it's doylist, but the other 99 times it's just "bad writing, lol" and other unhelpful, dismissive answers. Roleplayed answers also present a similar problem, because it gives people a blank check to give wrong answers by roleplaying someone with a wrong answer; this is why we adjusted our interpretation of the rules to say that a roleplayed character must have knowledge comparable to a well-read fan, and not have obvious gaps in their awareness. Like with the doylist split, you lose 1 really good answer and 99 "the Emperor did nothing wrong"/"Batman can't be Bruce Wayne"/etc. one-line unhelpful joke posts. And finally, if people show up here looking for Ask Science: Fiction, the watsonian/doylist split and a commitment to accuracy could be fairly described as integral parts of the current AS:F experience, so having that framework here will lead to smoother operation.

We're still trying to figure out our next move on our end, and it's unclear what footprint (if any) we're wanting to have on Lemmy and other Reddit alternatives; as of now, the current intention is to reopen the sub for a community vote/discussion next Monday to assess future moves, which may result in a return to conventional operations on Reddit. But at a minimum, folks have been asking about Lemmy, so it's something worth having a conversation about. Discord would probably be the easiest place to have that conversation, since I'm not wanting to do anything on this front without the other mods involvement, but if you want to reach out via private message first that's fine.

-Vote_for_Knife_Party

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hello there!

I'm actually really happy that this community got some attention from the mods at /r/asksciencefiction. To be perfectly honest, I didn't really want to be involved in the moderating process, and I figured somebody with a lot more drive than me would step in and create the framework for the community and run with it there. When that didn't happen during the massive growth spike, I figured I could be the driving force behind creating the community if nothing else. I'm a lot better at asking and answering questions than I am at creating and enforcing rules.

Interestingly enough, I tried to copy the rules from the subreddit, but it was dark at the time that I made this community, so I had to rely on wayback machine to even see the subreddit page, but I still couldn't get the accordion thing to show the actual rules from the latest accessible version. I actually went really far back in time to pre-reddit site redesigns and saw much older versions of the posted rules, plus a glimpse at how the rules had evolved over time. The origins of the subreddit were surprisingly hands-off, but as the community grew larger and larger, the need for more concrete structure arose.

If you'd like to keep me in the loop about the plans for the future of the subreddit, I would be more than happy to transition ownership of this community to the current moderation team of the subreddit who obviously work extremely hard at making it a fun place for everyone to enjoy. Feel free to PM me any time.

[–] Vote_for_Knife_Party@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In re: the rules, they've evolved over time. The general trend over the last couple of years, starting even before I came on board, was towards increased accuracy. When I first came on board the rule was that you could give a "wrong" answer in-character if you flagged it as such, but so many people failed to do so that they just sort of gave up on it. Too many people were, for lack of a more diplomatic term, choosing to roleplay idiots who didn't know what was going on in their own backyards.

As far as the future, we're mostly eyeballing it. On the 10th we're going to reopen, with the intention of having a week of standard operation alongside a poll to determine the next move. If the users opt for another blackout, then blackout we shall. Otherwise, we resume operations and open the discussion to other protest actions. The discord seems to be the primary "backup" at this point. We're still sorting out how far we're looking to spread out from Reddit, and it's unclear if there will be much demand for a Lemmy instance if things go the way they're currently going.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It might help to have some actual rules in this place.

But you could try asking the mods over at /r/AskScienceFiction to see if they would be interested in taking over.

To be honest, I only found this place because I was wondering if someone had made one over at startrek.website. Some more content might also help things.

I don't mind volunteering, but I've not been a moderator on Reddit or Lemmy before, just on FB and Discord a few times.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I certainly could update the sidebar with some clearer instructions on how to participate, that's for sure. I've been taking a very laissez faire approach to the situation in regards to establishing rules, at least initially. I know that not everybody was fond of the sometimes overly strict rules at the reddit version in regards to the Watsonian/Doylist perspective, and I don't want to shut out anyone's voice before they've even had a chance to weigh in on it.

I will plan to update the community description sometime this afternoon. I'll take some excerpts from the subreddit if I am able to. Appreciate the feedback.

[–] MathiasTCK@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Looking good so far. I volunteer to be made mod. This is me: https://www.reddit.com/user/mathiastck

I moderated some small sub reddits on Reddit, the largest is https://www.reddit.com/r/propublica/ with 1k members. Basically I used to want a place on Reddit to share things I found elsewhere, most Twitter, and a lot of it was news articles, so I looked for the subreddits related to those news sources. They were frequently closed or abandoned, so I used Reddits process to request an orphan sub, and got them reopened.

I've been reading Sci Fi for 30 years, I got into Heinlein as a teenage boy, and tried making a Starship Troopers GIFS subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/doingmypart/ but I ended up just using it as my default resharing targert when someone does or does not do a thing.

I'm moving to posting those kinds of posts here now on Lemmy: https://lemmy.world/c/doingmypart

On Reddit my sci fi related stuff also went to: https://www.reddit.com/r/BioOfASpaceTyrant/ It's a bit focused on 40k quotes. I'm playing the Horus Heresy Legions mobile CCG: https://www.horusheresylegions.com/ and I have been devouring the audio and epub 40k/30k books from Humble Bundle, I just bought the current one: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/chronicles-world-warhammer-black-library-books

I am excited about Netflix's 3 Body Problem adaptation, I love the book, I'm caught up and enjoying latest trek, and I try to read each new releae from Neal Stephenson

https://twitter.com/nealstephenson

Honestly I keep referencing his last 2 books when I try to explain what people are missing about where social is / where it is going. His old stuff was also prescient.