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they've had a buggy day it seems, all their posts are getting quadrupled...

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[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

People be forgetting the entire point of decentralization and recommend a single overloaded instance when everything's connected anyway πŸ˜”

Join and recommend smaller general instances like lemm.ee, vlemmy.net, and lemmy.one at random instead. Smaller servers have been upgraded for the surge of users too you know

[–] bnaur@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Join and recommend smaller general instances like lemm.ee, vlemmy.net, and lemmy.one at random instead. Smaller servers have been upgraded for the surge of users too you know

That was basically my logic when I joined lemmy.world a few weeks ago. Oh well...

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We really need to build tools that maker it easier and more obvious for people to do that. We can’t punish people AFTER they have an account. Instead the signup process on overloaded servers needs to change

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we need accounts themselves to be decentralised so you can move your user between instances

Then we could have each instance automatically load balance with other instances it federates with, if it's overloaded it could just forward users to another instance

I think as long as we have the concept of users choosing one specific instance themselves we're going to have problems with everyone going to 2 or 3 mainstream ones

[–] Chickerino@vlemmy.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

interesting concept, i wonder how that would be implemented

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know how Lemmy's codebase works but I would imagine it'd be something like the server detects it's under heavy load by its CPU usage, sends a request out to a given number of its friends, and they respond back whether they have spare capacity, and if one says it's got capacity it redirects users to their domain instead (or maybe asks them if they want to first and then redirects them)

Could even just have a pop up saying "This instance is overloaded, please consider using one of the following:" and then give a list of randomly selected instances with free capacity with links to continue with wherever you were doing on the other instance

[–] skomposzczet@vlemmy.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Problem with this is that every time this happens one needs to research those instances because probably most of the people wouldn't like to end up in beehaw situation. But I guess it is only matters if this overloads would happen frequently. Once every few months I wouldn't mind changing instance if it improves overall performance, and makes site more usable for everyone.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Beehaw defederated from loads of instances right? Kinda saw that coming seeing how much they'd setup on their own instance and branded everything

This load balancer could prioritise instances that have similar white/black lists to the one you're current on, and if it suggested switching instead of doing it transparently people would be choosing which one of those they'd rather use

I think it'd also help people better understand how the system works and maybe permanently switch to another less popular instance

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

It would help if overloaded instances closed signups, then they would be unlisted from join-lemmy.org

[–] forklift@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My reasoning was that it would be easier to find new communities passively (instead of searching for them) in the instance with the highest member count.

Joined today and it is laggy. Is this just a lemmy.world issue? Might sign up to a smaller instance if so.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oi, I joined both before it was the biggest AND before I knew better.

[–] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The things is that most people who join Lemmy don't understand the premise at first so they join the ones with the most people, at least that is what happened to me, it is only after I used Lemmy for awhile that I understood how everything worked

I initially thought that you can see other instances posts but you can't comment or post there unless you had multiple accounts to every single one, but no you can cross post and comment, which even if it was like that it would still be better than using reddit.

[–] OmniGlitcher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My logic behind joining lemmy.world was that defederation may be an issue, current or future, therefore it made sense to join the one that for one has the most people, and for two is the least likely to be defederated or randomly defederate others.

Granted, I believe beehaw did in fact defederate .world, and I think it was not long after, so maybe I did choose poorly.

I was tempted to join feddit.uk, but I wasn't sure if that would put the unnecessary identifier of "This guy's probably British!" on me everywhere I go.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Considering, beehaw defederated from two large instances. It would infact appear to be the exact opposite.

[–] ekZeno@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] OptimalAutomation@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy.World is just not loading anything right now so I'm glad to not be on the overloaded instance!

[–] Archerofyail@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I wanted to make an account on lemmy.ca, but they have to approve registrations manually, so I picked the one I saw people talking about the most.

[–] Thormjolnir@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Recently just made 4 posts about the same thing because of a "network error" on opensignups@lemmy.ml

Only four? I saw eight!

[–] L0Wigh@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I was really asking myself why this happens, seems like you gave me an answer

[–] norgur@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

The last few days have been a wonderful street test for the federation. To be fair, it has faired better than commercial stuff usually does under comparable circumstances.

[–] dekatron@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Lol I've been wondering why I'm seeing a lot of duplicate comments recently.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m from Lemmy world, are there four of me?

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