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Everyone should stop using microsofts github and look for better alternatives. (lemmy.ml)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world
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Github isn't good enough . Everyone should look for more privacy , security based alternatives and support them . You should not give big corpos any more of your money . Besides it goes against every fiber of ethics of foss dev's . I know most people will not agree with me because it's hard to make the switch or github is the standard , more popular better logic but it doesn't make sense because foss is there for privacy, security reasons and why would you host it all on one of the biggest and greediest corp of all time ? If you are building foss may as well take a little more effort and put it anywhere else maybe it'll be cheaper too but definetly better in privacy , security functions and may grow or is aldready depending on what you are choosing better than github.

EDIT: To people who are saying this isn't an unpopular opinion it isn't on lemmy ( because we are privacy focused ) but it is everywhere else why do you think why a very , very large amount of people still use github.

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[–] fury@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Proud GitLab self-hoster here (for private projects). I'd love for someone to beat GitHub. The hard part is going to be replacing the discoverability and the network effect. I find GitLab to be a superior product, technically, but it doesn't matter much in the face of GitHub's momentum as the incumbent 800 lb gorilla.

[–] wiccan2@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

The previous gorilla was called Sourceforge and it's still cowering in the corner.

We're just waiting on the next young gorilla to step up and make a challenge.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

git ≠ github

git is fine
you can even self-host a git server, no problem

[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Is this really an unpopular opinion? I feel like with the ever-spreading enshittification, which spreads to GitHub as well, distancing from big tech products is becoming the new normal.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago

The vast majority of open-source projects are still hosted on GitHub, so yes, it’s an unpopular opinion.

[–] THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Yes still a really big amount of people are using github

[–] angelsomething@lemmy.one 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There should be like a federated gitlab for this to be a feasible replacement imo.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

What type of stuff are you looking to be shared? Git itself is already distributed. Issue tracking and wikis?

[–] THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Yep that would be really good

[–] paskalivichi@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Codeberg gang.

[–] THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah codeberg seems to be really good.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

I'll be honest, in not sure I follow the security or privacy arguments.

I do get saying you don't want to give fodder or leverage to a company that at best is neutral to the interests of the average developer, has a terrible track record and already has far to much sway.

[–] souperk@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I agree, I am not sure if I am ready to make the move myself, but I have ADHD and this post may be just the motivation I need. I am using GitHub as glorified private git server, so the move shouldn't be too difficult. Any recommendations are welcome (thinking of codeberg at the moment)!

Aside from price, I have aspirations of open sourcing stuff this year so some issue tracking and CI/CD features would be appreciated (thought not necessary).

Edit: It seems codeberg is non-commercial, but there is a host for forgejo that seems interesting (https://gna.org/).

(I started a rant about self hosting, then realized it's completely irrelevant but I had already written it, so continue at your own risk)

IMO self hosting is not an option unless you are a sysadmin or somehow have a tonne of relevant experience.

I used to self-host GitLab, one weekend after about a month of being off my hobby projects I tried to login and the service wasn't available. At first, I panicked, I didn't know when my last backup was, but it was a while. In the end, my host was performing scheduled maintenance and a few hours after GitLab was running again, but that incident was enough to scare me away from ever self-hosting anything valuable ever again.

[–] THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't let a bad experience stop you

[–] souperk@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I guess what I was trying to say is that I am not willing to take up the risk of self-hosting my code or expend the effort to make sure this is well functioning and safe.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

[...] very large amount of people still use git.

🤔

[–] THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy among others host their source on git.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I was laughing at your apparent confusion between github and git

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

I love my GitHub Actions, though. And since I'm already using Azure... In for a penny, in for a pound.