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I really do like KBin and Lemmy and the fediverse on the whole, but development is still young and the userbase still growing. KBin is still basically early access, and Lemmy is buggy. I spent alot of time in reddit and I'm feeling the pain of trying to ween myself from it. Just wanted to here community perspectives and see how other's are taking it.

For me, I feel a bit of a sore hollow spot for what reddit used to be and watching it implode is not fun for me.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I actually kind of feel the opposite way. While Kbin is young, and will certainly be more optimised with time, it works more than well enough to satisfy my want to interact with the world the same way I would through Reddit - though interactions feel more personal. Just in this thread I recognise a couple of names of those I've chatted with before.

Additionally, moving to Kbin finally gave me a chance to do some spring-cleaning on my browsing habits. Where I used only stick to my subscribed feed on Reddit, I find myself much more on All on Kbin, exposing myself to more (though I do stay away from NSFW, unlike what I did on Reddit).

[–] sendingmath@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ok, some of you apparently need to get outside more.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They do, but there are good reasons for people to become reliant on social media to fulfill their human need for social connection.

There's a comment from someone who had an accident and was literally stuck at home, I know of a few reddit moderators who were severely handicapped, there's people who moved country or town and don't have their childhood/uni social network anymore, people with mental health issues, people stuck living in the middle of nowhere, the gay kid who lives in a homophobic town, the atheist who lives in a deeply muslim country, etc.

Obviously it's not ideal, but social media are their way to connect. Often they have no real alternative.

It's easy to look down on them, and assume it reflects poorly on them, but often you have very little choice in these things. Shit happens and you end up with few real life friends.

It all happens to us anyway, especially men. Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of middle-aged men have no friends at all.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, we do, but not everyone can. There's a person upthread who had an accident and was literally stuck inside.

I recognise your username already, so I think you're as "terminally online" as the rest of us. But maybe you're posting from outside... :-)

[–] cruspies@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I've just realised that I haven't viewed a single tiktok video since leaving reddit. So I guess I haven't missed them. I never posted anything on reddit, I mostly lurked - as a passive consumer of other people's content. That's the biggest difference I guess. Here I have several different logins on various servers, and I've posted a few times in niche communities. It feels like a mini adventure!

[–] HeinousTugboat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I've been on reddit for more than 15 years at this point. I definitely feel like there's a big gap now. I think Kbin/Lemmy will be able to fill it eventually, though.

[–] R51@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Reddit schmeddit

It was just a location, and it got burnt out like every other spot for the past ???,000 years. I go where the shitposting goes, everything else will follow. As it always does.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, and it's about goddamned time.

[–] Prej@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, the blond piggy was right; it'll all blow over.
Most of the people getting riled up over reddit's antics will remain there out of convenience and/or habit.

It's like with video games. People shit on EA and other AAA developers but still preorder their games.

At the end of the day, all of the internet's content trickles from platform to platform, it's just a matter of where in this chain you are.

[–] JickleMithers@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'm generally a lurker but have been more active here on kbin. Lurking for 11+ years on reddit I've seen a lot of changes. It was only getting worse for years by the time this all went down. I saw the same thing over and over and over and over. I'm liking this space a lot more but I don't feel like my life has been disrupted, at least in a negative way. I do spend less time on "social media" but everything feels more organic here, at least so far, and I'm happy with my choice to delete and move on from reddit.

[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're not alone. People have a natural propensity to form groups and create connections with other people. Historically those connections have evolved from small and localized tribes to communities, and eventually to cities, city states, and regional/national cultures. It's in our DNA to want to be with other people, even if we joke about how we sometimes do not. We are a social species, and that quality has played a critical role in how our species developed.

We have all done this before, and we'll all do it again and again. Our interests change over time. We move to new communities. Where (and with whom) we spend time changes as we live out our lives. The way we socialize, and the people we socialize with, will change many times. The communities with which you belong never really stay the same. Change is genuinely one of the only true constants. Rather than facing it as an impediment or a loss, we can view it as an opportunity.

Change is difficult, but it can be a very good thing. Change is really the only way we grow. If we retain what's familiar and comfortable then we will never experience anything new. You're better than that. We're all better than that. This is an opportunity that is so rarely afforded to a community like ours to do something different. Don't lament on what was lost, but seize this as an opportunity. Let's make this new community everything you'd hoped the last one could be but wasn't.

This isn't a time to think about what has been lost, but the greatest of opportunities in front of us. Seize it. Seriously. The sooner we turn our other cheek on where we were and focus on where we are and where we can be, the faster this community will begin to truly emerge and transform from being quite simply a refuge for former Redditors, to whatever it is that we want to make of it. It's all about perspective. This is an opportunity for us all. Let's make something of it. Let's do it together.

[–] szczur@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I was seriously addicted to Reddit at some point, but in the meantime I got a perma-ban there. So I gave up and here we are.

[–] Scope@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

My "life being disrupted" is a tad dramatic, but it's certainly changed my downtime scrolling habits. And there are some niche interests that I can't participate in the discussion of anymore since deleting my Reddit account, because there's not the user base here to support the communities. Mostly, I can't wait until KBin isn't just a place where the most active conversations are about Reddit. I think RedditMigration is the most populated overall magazine, and I really hope that's not a lasting situation.

[–] DwarfGiraffe@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

After 6-7 years on reddit via Boost. It really was a big part of my life and it all falling apart really bothers me. Especially since it helped me mentally so much on so many levels.

Also I'm having a really hard time dealing with all the alternatives. I'm trying to get used to kbin but while I know it's still the early stages of the product, as a UX Designer, it just doesn't feel good to use at all at this stage. And it's still a big question mark if the communities and niches I enjoyed on reddit will even grow or thrive on any of the alternatives. Which again really sucks.

But despite the disruption it's caused, fuck reddit and fuck spez. No going back.

Fingers crossed that the alternatives grow and thrive.

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

As the saying goes, touch grass. :P

To elaborate a bit more, social networks like Reddit are good for interacting with people you normally wouldn't interact (and give you a small soapbox), but I think it's good to do other things as well. I'd say if it's affecting you that much, it's a sign of being too reliant on that. Take the time freed up to do other things that interest you. Read a book, play a game, go do some exercise, pick up a new hobby, get in touch with some friends you haven't met for a while, etc.

[–] oxjox@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First, I’m still new here so having to scroll past all the other comments to post a comment is lame.

Most relevant and importantly though, if you feel like your life is “disrupted” by the actions of a social media company, you might want to reassess your life.

I mean, are you serious? Think about the nature of this “issue”. Anyone of this mindset (aside from the developers who were not given enough time to deal with changes) strikes me as exceptionally childish.

What people should have a problem with is the vast number of bot accounts posting content to drive engagement. Reddit is trash. It’s full of click bait and rage bait just like very other “social media” entity.

What’s awesome here is the segment of people searching for smaller more supportive communities built around their hobbies and interests.

Hail to those who’ve been maintaining Vanilla Forums, etc and creating communities in the fediverse. You’re doing it because you care and believe in passions shared by your community.

[–] FoodDude@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I kinda like that you have to scroll past comments to comment yourself. You read, than comment. Kind of like a actual conversation/discussion. It's not just you vs the OP.

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[–] mode@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I still miss it but I am glad it is over

[–] cruspies@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've just realised that I haven't viewed a single tiktok video since leaving reddit. So I guess I haven't missed them. I never posted anything on reddit, I mostly lurked - as a passive consumer of other people's content. That's the biggest difference I guess. Here I have several different logins on various servers, and I've posted a few times in niche communities. It feels like a mini adventure!

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[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I was very active on Reddit for a long time so it's really hard for me to let it go. But let it go I will. They're fully on the path of enshittification and I'm not going down that one with them.

[–] Bucket_of_Truth@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel more like we're experiencing a new epoch of the internet and society really. It's not just reddit changing it's API, it seems that everything is changing around us and reddit is just one facet of that. The pandemic ending, the rise of AI, new threats of war, fentanyl cheaper than soda, and unprecedented corporate greed are creating a world that we haven't seen before and it's strange for everyone.

[–] shadowbert@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, yes. It's a pain.

But the good news is that, due to their sudden increase in popularity, they're likely to mature much more quickly than they would have otherwise.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a small business and about 20-30% of my traffic/sales came from Reddit. That's completely disappeared. I've seen a huge impact on my business already

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't relate but damn that sucks I'm sorry you're dealing with this.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Reddit has been pulling unsponsored ad content for the past year. I've been struggling with sales since I don't pay for advertising - all my business comes from word of mouth referrals. Same thing happened in 2018 when Youtube swept through and erased a bunch of content.

Fortunately I run a tight ship with minimal overhead so as long as I get some business weekly I can keep the 'doors' open. But damn it's been tough the past 14 months both with the recession and the changes to Reddit. But that's fine - the slow time gives me a chance to get back to what I enjoy - innovating cool new widgets for the market.

If you want to help us small businesses (all of us are struggling right now), just remember to leave an honest review or mention the business/brand online. A simple word of mouth referral is worth infinitely more than a paid advertisement.

[–] tal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of my conversations as this blew up was with some guy who sold WW2 memoriabilia and promoted his stuff on a small sub. He was kind of confused as to why the main WW2 sub had become inaccessible.

checks

It looks like it's restricted still, though not private.

Anyway, I imagine that there are other people in a similar boat.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Ouch. Yeah I still spend $0 in advertising. All my business comes from satisfied customers and word-of-mouth referrals (the way I believe it should be - I loath paid advertisements forced upon people). At one point I a few years back I was one of the top 500,000 websites in the world (Alexa verified).

I've taken multiple hits over the years when other platforms (like Youtube) swept through their content and eliminated unpaid "ads" as they see it. I have no clue what the future will hold, and extremely thankful that I have a few distribution partners helping keeping me afloat during these slow times. Maybe the federation's content will be logged by google and my site will regain it's popularity.

Best thing you can do to help us small businesses is to give a shout out wherever appropriate (not spam, naturally). Just remind people that XYZ business or brand exists is extremely beneficial and worth more than any paid advertising.

[–] Mostly_Harmless@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

At first I did feel that way. But as my engagement with reddit went down it felt like my life improved.

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