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[–] Philo@sh.itjust.works 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s more a signal of Iowans’ stupidity. I mean some people refused even to watch football teams associated with alleged rapists yet they vote for this overstuffed ~~troglodyte~~ Trumplodyte?

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't classify all people in Iowa as stupid. But I have been to Iowa and they love Trump there. Many old white America's, those that are the vast majority of voters in primary elections, love Trump. Trump represents the status quo, he doesn't want change and he speaks out against those that do. Many of the things the Democrats want to change won't help those in rural Iowa so they don't support it.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Republicans represent the status quo. Not trump. Trump simply doesn't have the intelligence to filter his speech. Much like the average Republican voter. That's why they identify with him so much. He truly is as stupid as they are. He's at best chaotic evil. Whereas the Republican party is neutral evil. Republicans pursue evil loosely under the guise of law and order. Trump squeals about law and order while pursuing pettiness and vengeance. Enabled by feckless Republicans.

[–] Philo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Here are just a few reasons why voting for Trump is stupid for Iowans or any breathing human.

Lying: Trump has made more than 10,100 false or misleading statements since his inauguration on everything from crowd size to how tariffs work. This has normalized lying to the point where it is no longer shocking.

Corruption: Trump, his family, and aides have used the presidency to enrich themselves. For example, taxpayers subsidize Trump when he stays at his properties, and foreign officials try to curry favor by spending money at Trump’s properties. Trump has sued to stop German bank Deutsche Bank from providing his financial records to two House committees. Deutsche Bank, which has faced scandals over past dealings with Russians, made large loans to Trump when other banks wouldn’t. If Trump has nothing to hide, why fight? Similarly, why is he fighting the release of his federal tax returns?

Conman: Trump sold himself as an astute businessman, convincing many voters he would bring prosperity to the little guy. However, between 1985 and 1994, Trump’s businesses showed losses of nearly $1.2 billion. They paid no taxes in eight of those years 1. Meanwhile, Trump’s tax cuts have helped corporate giants, but the little guy not so much. His tariff battle with China has hurt farmers and threatens to increase the prices of many consumer goods sold in the U.S.

Bigotry: Trump regularly insults critics and has slurred blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, and immigrants. He has called white supremacists “very fine people.” His policy that separated hundreds of immigrant children from their parents is inhumane.

Climate Change Denial: Trump has denied climate change as a scientific fact, ignoring government scientists who warn of serious consequences to the world unless we substantially curtail burning fossil fuels. Instead, Trump’s policies favor fossil fuels and help exacerbate global warming.

Dictatorship: Trump coddles strongmen and has taken the word of Russian President Vladimir Putin over U.S. intelligence agencies.

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That just means the majority of conservative Iowans are brain dead morons and genuinely bad people.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Never Attribute to Malice That Which is Adequately Explained by Stupidity

Given the GOP's goal for decades has been to destroy education, brain dead morons by design is hopefully more likely.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not really. HALF of them do not want him.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They will still fall in line to vote for him in general elections

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't be so sure.

We will see.

[–] swallowyourmind@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Half prefer him over anyone else ever.

Of the remaining half, half of those are still happy to vote for him.

Or, almost three quarters of Republicans (a large majority) support him.

And the majority of elected Republicans have endorsed Trump as the nominee before the primary.

What are soon to former Republicans continue to struggle with the fact Republican now equals Trumpism.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The former Yale baseball player would touch them all in Iowa in the months to come, collecting the GOP-beloved governor’s endorsement and mimicking senior Sen. Chuck Grassley’s annual 99-county pilgrimage, all with his charming young family in tow.

From the sweltering August heat of Iowa State Fair campaign stops to the sub-zero trudge Iowans made to their neighborhood caucuses Monday, DeSantis was never able to dip deep enough into that well of GOP voters who like Trump but were open to an alternative.

Even in this small sampling of voters — roughly 110,000 of Iowa’s 2.2 million people, practically a focus group on the national scale — Trump proved himself to be a daunting hurdle for his party’s rivals in a state he’d already carried twice.

But the bigger question is how does his campaign, low on cash, survive until the South Carolina primary, which remained 39 days away, especially given Trump’s relatively easy fundraising and donors who had waited to see strength from Haley begin to come off the fence.

While nearly half of the voters on Monday were looking for someone besides Trump, the former president could easily claim a majority of support in this increasingly conservative state, where Republicans hold all but one statewide elected office, both houses of the legislature and each of six seats in Congress.

As the snow fell along with temperatures in the final days of the campaign, perhaps all some voters needed to see was the line outside Simpson College as the morning sun offered weak comfort to the 100 people waiting in 18-below-zero weather to enter to see Trump’s midday event, which would draw more than 1,000 to the Kent Student Center.


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