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I posit that even the utopian futures will require something like it to preserve the utopias. Defensive Democracy will eventually see it as a necessary evil. The questions become: when? where first and where last? etc.

Discuss :)

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[โ€“] GenericUser@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah thats a hot take alright a hot steaming pile of a take for sure. Remember your outlook beliefs and politics may be popular right now but there will certainly come a time when they won't be and you too will be "problamatic" and that social credit system you vaunt now can and WILL be turned against you

[โ€“] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

that [...] system you vaunt now can and WILL be turned against you

This is true of almost any institution if the checks and balances are broken. Courts are great, but kangaroo courts are terrible. Democracy is great, until it elects a dictator. Etc.

Just because we don't personally like an idea doesn't mean it is avoidable from the perspective of a civilization.

If you work on the assumption that it is unavoidable: what checks and balances make it palatable?