Trump tried to steal the votes of over 80,000,000 Americans using any means necessary including violence and intimidation.
As one of those Americans whose vote he tried to steal I am pissed.
this post was submitted on 12 Jan 2024
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who are they writing this for? is anyone going to change their mind on this? there’s overwhelming evidence that trump is guilty, and there are already so many other arguments have been made that support the conclusion of this article.
even if people change their mind on this, the supreme court doesn’t have to listen to public opinion, and i highly doubt they’re going to change their minds on this.
there seems to be this idea going around that we can solve fascism by simply debating it hard enough. that will not work. these people are already convinced, and a lengthy article won’t change that.
None of that, however, means that we shouldn't be talking about it. The exchange of ideas, thoughts and opinions is important in and of itself.
The Atlantic caters to the wealthy and powerful, so they're likely trying to shape elite opinion with the potential to influence the Supreme Court.
it would be nice if it had that effect, but it’s been 3 years since jan 6 and much has been said in that time (by the atlantic and others). january 6 has been such a central point of american politics for so many years, and it’s been such a polarizing thing that i doubt there are many people left who are still on the fence about it.
i think this article is way more effective at reinforcing the idea that we can debate our way out of january 6th, than it is at actually debating our way out of january 6th.
I believe you're falling into the trap of believing that the only the most vocal people on the Internet are the only opinions that exist. There are tons of people who switch who they vote for every election, or chose to vote or not, which is usually what swings elections one way or another.
You won't convince the trump cultists who have abandoned reality in favor of their cult leader, but there are people who are on the fringe or fence who can be convinced and this is for them.
Yes some people are going to change their mind because most Americans aren’t paying close attention. You say “these people are already convinced”. This is just black and white thinking. Some are convinced, but many don’t feel informed enough to have strong opinions.
The lesson from the Dobbs decision is that, sure SCOTUS can ignore public opinion, but it matters when they do. After that decision, voters, including many independents and even conservatives, revolted, leading to many surprising victories for Democrats.
I’m honestly puzzled by your comment. Is this a call to stop spreading anti-fascist ideas? To stop making arguments and spreading concern? Why? Your theory seems to be that talking about ideas doesn’t matter. Fascists, on the other hand, keenly understand the power of ideas!
It’s to help the reader articulate why Jan 6 was an insurrection.
Everyday I'm reminded why democrats are weak. If the shoe were on the other foot they would cause so much of a stink the world would shutdown.
It's almost like it's not the party of the billionaires who own much of the press
It's more than that. Their people in congress have no interest in governing so when something like this comes up they can devote all their time and energy to it. Democrats think they always have to play fair lest they will face the consequence. Never risking being right over all else.
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