Holy crap! I'm going to say this again, I was in the US military during combat. None of this would be in the realm of possibilities in the US military. You would never ever EVER see the 3rd Marine Division just straight up say, "Fuck the 101st Airborne. We're going after them." It would never happen.
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I mean, imagine a dictator in charge who started a bloody war on Canada which has been going for more than a year and cost a few hundred thousand lives already. Maybe then it would be in the realm of possibilities.
Agreed. For comparison, I was also in the US military (not during combat) and had the opportunity to briefly work alongside some former Soviet soldiers in a former Soviet Republic (not Russia) several years after the break up. Fighting each other was these dudes primary mode of passing the time. It was absolutely wild. I imagine that the culture hasn't changed much.
You would never ever EVER see ...
I served in the 80's and let me heartily agree. We "wind dummies" derided "Jar-Heads" and "Wing Nuts", but the thought of actually trying to kill them is just ludicrous. Not even the ones from the wrong side of the political aisle. It's hard to imagine what kind of sick environment the Muscovites have in place that could give rise to this kind of in-fighting. It's hard to understand how they've managed to last this long with this level of rot.
What if the 101st stole all their crayons first? Still no?
They'll definitely get in a bar brawl, end up in jail, and become best buddies. They would not fight each other in combat though.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
We do a little mutiny
So its full on civil war now?
Looks like it!
when many personnel were too drunk to respond quickly, while others are refusing to fight Wagner.
That's a very Russian sounding line 😅
This whole situation makes me feel like something is not right. Why announce it so public?
War full of lies to make the opponent think you go left while you go right.
I think Prigozhin is aiming for a position where he will need the support of a lot of people in order to get what he wants, even if succeeds with his objective. He is rallying support outside of Wagner, in order to gain legitimacy or acceptance for his end goal, whatever that may be.
He's also the dude who runs all the Russian troll farms. Information warfare is kind of his thing.
Most underrated comment. Prigozhin is a straight up evil mother fucker: from being a war criminal and running the troll farm that helped get Trump elected, he's no dummy. I am torn about cheering for him. If he takes the Presidency of Russia, the situation may not be any better.
Well, he would not be burdened with Putin's legacy in Ukraine and could easily walk away from it as a bad investment. He's certainly not a better man, but Putin is not able to end this war without losing power (and his life). Prigizhin can.
I think the more support you have, the more likely others will support you. So you want everyone to know about your supporters. I'm sure there's a number of people who've wanted to overthrow Putin for a looooong time and were just waiting for something that actually stood a chance of success.