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My new (first) home needs some significant siding repair. Wenconsider ourselves handy but it's a lot for us to handle and we want to have the insulation redone as well.

Pros and cons of various types of siding?

Tips for working with contractors?

What is the difference between roofing companies, exterior companies and the general reno or contractors? It looks like in my area they will almost all do the same siding work. Is it just a difference in naming?

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[–] xyguy@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Just had our roof and siding redone after hail damage. We were told that the exterior insulation built into the siding was minimal and not worth the extra cost for the benefit. If you already have it and it just needs repaired that's a different story.

From what we could tell, the main difference between exterior contractors was the brand of shingles and siding they use and how they structure their quotes. The job is pretty much the job other than if you choose to do different types of siding on different parts of the house.

We chose our contractor based on someone else we know that had good experience with them and them being local to us in case we had any issues or wanted to make a warranty claim (they offered a 5 year workmanship guarantee). Pretty much all roofing people also do siding. Most do windows too. Our guy did windows, roofing, siding, insulation and gutters despite only having "roof" in his business name.

Just get 3 quotes and see who you like. Also, if you are doing anything through an insurance company, DO NOT sign anything from an exterior contractor to let them negotiate with the insurance company on your behalf. If they came door to door, that's often something they will ask for. Just assume that most of those door-to-door folks are in the same category as ambulance-chasing lawyers and don't trust them at all.

Also, if you are going through insurance and the contractor wants to see your claim, remove all dollar amounts from the claim before you share it. Let them give a quote based on what they value the job at rather than based on how much money they know for a fact you have.

Also also, it's illegal in a lot of jurisdictions, if not all, for a contractor to tell you that they will reimburse or refund the amount of an insurance deductible if you make a claim or if you choose them to do the work. So if any of them said that it's immediately shady if not downright illegal.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hiding the dollar amounts from the contractor might not be worthwhile unless you were paid for the entire claim upfront. Insurance companies reimburse "recoverable depreciation" based on your actual incurred expenses. This means that any amount you save from the contractor just ends up staying in the insurance company's pocket. Of course, if you are paid the full amount upfront, this doesn't apply.

Example: Insurance estimates $20k damage, $5k recoverable depreciation, $1k deductible. You get a check for $14k. If your contractor says they will do the work for $15k, you don't get any more money from the insurance company and the insurance company gets to keep that $5k.

Note that the insurance company's estimate is usually fair when it comes to the dollar amount for the scope of work. One minor exception to this is when an estimate is generated very soon after a large storm event. In that case, the insurance company will usually update the estimate to a newer price list if you ask them to.

[–] xyguy@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

Our claim we got all up front but that is all good info to know. Thanks!

[–] Kethal@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe the insulation built into the siding isn't worth it, but my last house had foam installed beneath the vinyl siding. I noticed that the house was much more comfortable before I knew that insulation was there. I'd recommend getting the price estimate at least, especially in a cold climate.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Aluminum is a nightmare to keep looking nice. Vinyl in deep colors will fade unevenly and look dated eventually, but it lasts pretty good. Hardieboard is expensive and nice, but will need to be painted periodically.

Honestly, everything has its downside. I hate vinyl but it's probably the best price to value relationship. Get it strapped out for the house and put in an actual closed cell, foil backed insulation, the insulated siding isn't worth the money.

Get an actual siding company, a roofing company that does siding means you'll have roofers scabbing on siding, and that will not go well.