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i thought this question could fit here as this is a community about open source software after all, anyways.. i was gonna do editing for the first time and wanted to use something that's free and open source, i was considering either shotcut or kdenlive but i wanted to at least hear the community's opinion about it, i'll be waiting for the replies. thanks

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[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 months ago

To my knowledge Kdenlive is generally regarded as one of the best video editors. Iirc one of the few things said to be holding it back from being the best on Linux was bad/no hardware accelleration or something like that.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Kdenlive is absolutely better than many other paid closed software video editors in all fields, speed, usability and ease of use

Got tricked into buying a license of pinnacle video editor 24 from humble bundle for $1 and I felt scammed. Slow, unresponsive, limited. Kdenlive beats it in every single compartment. Can clearly see that pinnacle video editor is just a cash cow for KKR and they're just doing the bare minimum to maximize their revenue.

Last time I tried shotcut instead it felt incomplete

[–] NetherFalcon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yeaaaahhh i've used something like vegas pro and it would crash constantly and i just had enough and was considering switching to a different editor, i looked at some alternatives and found 2 options and they both look interesting, hence why i made this post cause i was looking for opinions on both of them, i might just use kdenlive

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For your first time, either is definitely good enough. They're both pretty full featured, and they both follow "normal" editing conventions - so if you want/need to use a different program in future, you already know how to use 90% of it, you're just looking for where the buttons are. It's all very transferable learning.

As mentioned by another reply, there's currently a lack of hardware acceleration for timeline playback in Kdenlive which means if you're really stacking the effects up, you won't be able to play back in the timeline at full frame rate until you pre-render. It won't make any difference in simple edits.

[–] Aelis@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd add it's usefull to know that in case of poor performance you can still lower the preview resolution or use something called proxies, to continue editing, not always ideal but it does the job. Performance also depends on your hardware, even without hardware acceleration, so the more horse power the crazier you can go with effects. Kdenlive also greatly improved (in my experience at least) regarding performances, even though hardware acceleration would still be a must.

[–] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Chiming in that editing with proxies, while potentially cumbersome, is pretty standard. Feature films and TV shows are often edited in 720p for that exact reason. ProRes or h.264, depending on your needs and capabilities. Final renders are just a matter of turning the proxies off.

I dabbled in kdenlive for half a day while looking for something my nephew could use for a school project. Didn't realize the lack of hardware acceleration until this thread. Still, it's a great piece of software and I'm looking forward to watching it develop further

[–] Aelis@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Shotcut is great if you never dived into video editing before, simply because it's great for quick and simple video editing, it's also fairly intuitive. But it can fall flat when you have specific (or more advanced) needs, like adding subtitles or specific effects, it's doable, features are not fully the problem here...just that it can be a needless pain to use in such instances.

Kdenlive on the other hand is more complete but less intuitive, yet if you want something a bit more advanced it will do the job more than nicely.

So it widely depends on your needs and how far you want to delve into video editing.

I'd say if you wanna go crazy go for Kdenlive, if you want something simple go for Shotcut. If you want to start simple and go crazy later go for both.

They are both more than decent editing softwares, but Kdenlive is surely the best of the two, if not one of the best out there.

[–] NetherFalcon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

i might probably try kdenlive as it looks powerful enough lmao

[–] TheLastOfHisName@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

I haven't used it in a while, but I liked Openshot when I found myself having to edit some video.

https://www.openshot.org/

[–] rah@feddit.uk 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

but i wanted to at least hear the community's opinion about it

Can I ask why?

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 9 points 10 months ago

Because the world of software is a mile wide and a foot deep. By the time they tested out both of these and the litany of other "video editing" programs they could have posted this and gotten an answer.

Searching online just gets blog results, junk downloads, and reddit threads

[–] renard_roux@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

What an odd question. May I ask why you posed it (serious)?

There seems to be some sort of snub in it, but I can't figure out who the target is.

Is it not common sense to ask for advice when you're unsure of something?

[–] rah@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What an odd question. May I ask why you posed it (serious)?

I was curious why OP wanted to know the opinion of "the community".

Is it not common sense to ask for advice when you’re unsure of something?

OP didn't ask for advice.

[–] renard_roux@beehaw.org 9 points 10 months ago

Ah, pedantry. Snubbing OP for using the word 'opinion' instead of 'advice', which, given the context, should be synonymous here. Got it 👍

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Never used shotcut, but kdenlive is probably better supported. Shotcut looks like it's written by one dude (much respect though).

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[–] NetherFalcon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

yeah i think i did try shotcut before and it just feels like there isn't really nothing much, i was probably considering to aim more for kdenlive

[–] mfat@lemdro.id 1 points 9 months ago

I use Shotcut for work, although we have a Premier Pro subscription. It's perfect for my needs. We cut simple edits with no effects. I just occasionally need to be able to adjust volume and change video size / aspect ratio. Shotcut is perfect for my needs.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

I know you're specifically asking about FOSS, which DaVinci Resolve isn't, but it does have a fully free version that lets you export full projects up to 4k. DaVinci is a professional tool used by big productions as well as single operators like myself, that gives you a whole post-production pipeline in one single environnement separated into tabs, the learning curve was pretty good for me but I had previous experience.

[–] 8orange8@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Personally I think Kdenlive has the most user-friendly interface of any video- editor (pay software included) so I think it's ideal for a newcomer. It's also fairly light on system resource comparatively.

A few years ago, it used to have a reputation for being a bit buggy but seems to be very stable in my experience these days.

The main problem would be the lack of guides/tutorials, though there are a few on YouTube.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I've used both of them for many years and generally they're both quite nice. For some reason kdenlive is my go-to, probably it has a few features that I use regularly, but I would recommend either of them.