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I am searching for an energieefficient mini pc for hosting jellyfin on Debian.

EDIT: I am looking for something to replace/outperform my raspberry pi 3B+

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[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Raspberry Pi is the most energy efficient and easy. Works perfectly if your clients can direct play the media. If transcoding is needed then you need a Celeron based NUC with QSV support (Intel Quick Sync). One of those can handle transcoding for a few clients unless we're talking 4k source files then it's like 1-2 clients max and no tone mapping. Next step up and we're talking something that can't really be called energy efficient.

[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The pi5 couldn’t keep up for me. How do you avoid transcoding?

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 7 points 8 months ago

Make sure the clients can play the media without transcoding, there are lists of formats Jellyfin support natively but generally speaking H.264 in a .mp4 container is a safe bet and pretty common to find. If your files aren't in that format then you can quite easily remux them, and add some automation to it so it's done ahead of time. The Pi can remux files but it will be pretty slow so best is if you can have another computer do that part.

Oh yeah, if Jellyfin insist on transcoding it might be due to poor / shaky connection such that it wants to transcode to say 480p / 360p or something and then best is to try and turn it off completely in settings.

[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

I believe Jeff Geerling talks a bit about this on his video on Jellyfin. If memory serves, he has some way of preparing his files that I guess you could describe as pre-transcoding.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Intel NUCs have the best balance between power, flexibility, and efficiency. That is pretty much end of story right now.

PIs are much more energy efficient at the cost of no SATA, much less transcoding power, less RAM, no PCIe expansion, etc...

A desktop PC has more power but at higher energy. It is still flexible, but you can't really get it below 30W idle.

A server PC has high energy consumption but with a ton of flexibility, capability, and power.

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't they still make the tall NUC with the 2.5" SATA bay?

[–] reddthat@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

Just picked up one from marketplace. $200 for this exact reason

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

Honestly any mini PC made in the last decade should work. I would go on eBay and look at used machines. If you can go for something made in the last 5 years that has expandable storage.

[–] Sertou@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Depends on your budget and use case. Jellyfin’s “Hardware Selection” documentation has you covered as to general specs, so maybe consider them a shopping list.

Briefly, a mini PC with the following will work for a “normal server:”

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560, Intel Core i3-7100 or newer Pentium or better

RAM: 8GB or more

Storage: 60GB SSD storage for Jellyfin files and transcoding cache.

Graphics: Intel HD 6xx (7th gen integrated graphics) or newer, Nvidia GTX 16 / RTX 20 series or newer (excluding GTX 1650). Intel is recommended over Nvidia. AMD and Apple Silicon are not recommended.

If you don’t need transcoding, or can use low power transcoding, Intel 12th gen or newer Atom CPUs with integrated graphics will serve.

https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/administration/hardware-selection/#:~:text=Storage%3A%2060GB%20SSD%20storage%20for,Apple%20Silicon%20are%20not%20recommended.

I’ve run Jellyfin on a R Pi 4 but experienced glitches on playback with a Roku with media that required transcoding. It wasn’t awful, but knowing myself, I knew it’d get old quickly so I went back to MiniDLNA which works a treat when playing back on a mini PC with VLC or Kodi.

[–] mmmmmsoup@lemmy.today 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I use an M1 Mac mini. It might be a little overkill, but I use the mini as a server for many things other than jellyfin too. encodes are lightning quick with no fan noise or heat and very low power consumption.

[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Intel NUCs should be good enough.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Actually I think that's overkill

[–] custard_swollower@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I use a usff Lenovo thinkcentre m97p with external hdds for media. It has 4th-gen i5 (2 cores) and 8GB of ram. If I don't use transcoding, it's perfectly capable. For transcoding it would depend on the media :) I only stream fullhd.