THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
① Real-life decorum is expected. Please don't say things only a child or a jackass would say in person.
② If you're here to support the police, you're trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.
③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They're about killing people; we're not.
④ Please don't dox or post calls for harassment, vigilantism, tar & feather attacks, etc.
Please also abide by the instance rules.
It you've been banned but don't know why, check the moderator's log. If you feel you didn't deserve it, hey, I'm new at this and maybe you're right. Send a cordial PM, for a second chance.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
So a quick note on the controversial comments:
They were reported and popped up on my moderation log.
I chose to leave the comments in place and instead reply to them rather than removing them simply because removing them wouldn't allow people to see the misinformation and a reasoned response to that misinformation.
It's clear the poster had no first hand knowledge of the book in question or the intent of placing it in schools (or not placing it in schools as was the case here).
In any regard, they chose to go through and delete all their comments. This was a decision made by the original author and not the moderators.
Bummer that it removes all the responses when they delete the top level comment. This person was a bigot and the comments did a good job rebutting their right wing propaganda.
Exactly why I didn't remove them. :(
Hey, this is good moderating.
Aww, you're just saying that because you didn't have to do it. LOL! ;)
Seriously, I banned someone in another group I moderate and they turned into a full bore stalker, multiple accounts, ban evasion, etc. etc. I had to get the site admins involved and everything.
It's kind of refreshing when someone sees the arguments and the downvotes and goes off to re-think their life choices.
I like your optimism assuming that's what happened.
Took me several removals to figure out I was removing a whole tree of comments. Always been a slow learner.
Well, their account is still there, their comments in the modlog show "deleted by user", and they aren't banned or anything... sooo...
So they swatted a school. They took a picture of a random, inappropriate book, sent that picture to the cops, and the cops raided the school to show little queer kids that force and violence will meet them if they don't hide the fact that they're queer.
Fucking monsters.