The continuous refresh makes the site mostly unusable for me in browser. I'd prefer updating to fix one of the biggest bugs the site has
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2FA is something I've been missing honestly, but I can wait until v0.18.1 for more stability. Thanks for the change log and the developers of Lemmy for this awesome update.
Waiting for 0.18.1 seems like the safe, smarter option to me
yea not all instances are 0.18 sadly :(
v0.18.1 is released before upgrading (which shouldn't take more than a few days)
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, and an update that fixes bugs which break basic functionality is worth upgrading for immediately rather than waiting for over-the-rainbow. 2FA alone makes it pretty much not a realistic discussion, honestly.
If it really is only a few days, yeah, I'd wait it out.
Things are working, no rush for new things or major change. Prioritize ease of administration over immediate need for new toys.
I updated my small instance, it worked great. Until I rebooted the server then it stopped working entirely. I tried restarting the database and the app separately, but it never came back up. I had to wipe and reinstall as downgrading didn't work either. Due to issues with names no longer federating if the instance is recreated with the same domain and name I had to change my subdomain entirely as well. If for example a user was named user1@instance1.tld and you reinstall that instance using instance1.tld. If you recreate the user user1@instance1.tld, it will not federate any comments.
I may be a small use case, but it has made sure I'll be waiting a good long time before upgrading again.
I'd vote for waiting for 0.18.1 if it's only a couple more days
To me personally the websockets thing make the site pretty much unusable. So I'd prefer to upgrade earlier.
whats the problem with websockets?
The bug where your feed keeps being flooded with posts from the top, thus pushing everything down. You can't click anything while that happens.
I'd be keen to hear about how websockets are slowing down Lemmy and how much of an impact this update will have.
kbin works on sockets for it's messing from memory, but I haven't dug to deeply into it
I think you should go for option 2!
It's a good idea to keep it stable but I will have you know that updated jerboa users can no longer login to your instance.
Can't log in, or get the annoying pop-up? I'd rather wait till the full upgrade is ready than have the sever go down twice in a week.
Jenora crashes every few minutes or lesser after the update. practically unusable right now
Hmm.. I've been using Jerboa since I signed up about a week ago. It's not perfect, but the only problems I had was last night when my router and access points went offline to update...
Also, I have been using Jerboa for the last 10 hours with minimal bugs...
Can't login at all.
Sounds like a good update, a couple of days shouldn't matter but I can see both sides to it, people want the latest and greatest but also if there are any issues that's not great as more people migrate to Lemmy
I sat wait. Right now Lemmy and this instance are working and usable. IDK why they'd pull captcha given the number of spam bots but that's worth waiting for IMHO especially if it's only a few days.
I remember reading through a discussion in which the dev popped in to explain their reasoning, maybe a Github issue? but yeah, if it will only be a few days work to implement a different capcha, probably better to wait.
I don't get why not wait a few days for the release then? If the problem is that easy to fix, is there some other issue that needs to be released ASAP?
That's just what they decided to go with. I think it was a decent decision given the usability and stability problems that were made apparent when people started coming in droves during the blackouts. Now instance operators have a choice; upgrade and lose captcha temporarily (those with email verification and applications less affected here), or wait for 0.18.1 when it's slated to be implemented.
Updating now and closing new user registrations for a few days is an option? I understand that it would be a problem, but it is supposed to take a few days
In any case what you decide well done will be
Seems a shame to close new user registrations during a period of rapid growth and mass exodus from Reddit.
FWIW I've upgraded aussie.zone to 0.18 and encountered no isses, apart from the removed captcha support. But my instance isn't huge by any means.
I don't see any wrong answer; both options have advantages. Personally, we've already waited this long, what's another few days?
It's another few days with websockets, broken sorting, a front-page-breaking bug, and no 2FA. Plus the site is even more broken for everybody running the latest version of Jerboa till 0.18.0 gets installed.
I just updated Jerboa and now it won't let me login due to us not being on 0.18.0 :( Not the end of the world if its just gonna be a couple of days, the (buggy) web version exists. But damn, was so used to Jerboa.
All fine points and I can't argue against those! Just my personal preference where I don't mind being miserable for another few days, particularly in the case where important anti-bot features are missing.
I have to disagree with the last point, turning on email verification will do fine at preventing bots, especially since the reason captchas are being removed is that the Lemmy devs say they don't work properly anyway.
Oh, interesting! I didn't know the captchas were crap (how I feel about captchas anyway) on Lemmy. TIL. Seems like upgrading now has more benefit then; carry on and ignore me.
No, I'm going to stalk you now.
Also, those cabinets? Really? Not with that backsplash, come on.
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I think it's smart to wait it out the few days. With all of the bots assembling, better safe than sorry so this place doesn't get flooded
I would update; no websockets and links are really nice. BUT captcha is really important.
It's kind of important, they currently don't work properly anyway and email verification will do the same thing.
How does one know when their instance is updated?
Idk how to do it on the jerboa but on web when you scroll to the very bottom you can see the version
If you are on web version scroll down and there is something like "BE: 0.17.4".
When your feed stops being broke I'd guess.
I love it that this instance works. Can you wait for eager people to work out the kinks before updating?
This is a major Lemmy upgrade, The FYFM server already asked/discussed upgrading taking the server off for a while, or wating another couple days until the full update was ready.
If you're worried about the Jerboa warning, just hit cancel, it still works just fine (still has bugs as is still in Alpha) life is better, smile and have fun!
is there any update about a native dark mode or user interface upgrade?
I keep seeing stories about the amount of bot accounts flooding in. I think better not have a weakness for bots to exploit at a moment where the site is getting a lot of new attention.
Unfortunately none of the comments I've made from my instance are federating anywhere since I update.
Two factor is nice, however having it not create a barcode is a bit of a pain. You can create one locally if you install qr through pip (I'm sure there are many other ways but that one worked well for me). Just pip install qr. Once it's installed just type qr and paste the link given through lemmy. Worked for adding it to Aegis on my phone.
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