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Elon Musk "We dug our own grave with 'FULL SELF DRIVING"" (www.youtube.com)
submitted 10 months ago by Buffalox@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t

I considered hard weather this really belongs in Technology, but came to the conclusion that exposing a scammer that is considered a tech genius, does belong here. Because debunking a technology company is as important as showing it, when it's considered valid.

That said, I believe most people here are already aware that Musk is not to be trusted blindly. But just how bad it really is, may be news to some.

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[–] machinin@lemmy.world 203 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Someone mentioned this and it always stuck with me - never trust someone who makes failure collective ("we dug our grave”), but success individual.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Such a great rule, for real

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

There wasn't even a "we" here... This was 100% Elon being an arrogant dumbass.

[–] Exec@pawb.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How about the other way around?

  • (I) I made that mistake
  • (they) We made that mistake
  • (I) We made that success
  • (they) They made that success
[–] Euphorazine@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You should look for Last Week Tonight's segment on Elon. I think John Olivers take was fair.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It seemed a bit too fair to Elon Musk IMO. It felt like John Oliver held back the punches.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Oliver completely neglected to cover the fact that Hyperloop was a scam to defraud the Californian taxpayer out of high speed rail. (Elmo wins doubly: through the government grant in Hyperloop and through Tesla car sales.)

[–] kpw@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

Didn't even mention Mastodon once.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

I recommend Some More News. Their shows are more in depth, longer, and musk is a 2 parter. Plus there is a third episode on self driving cars alone.

[–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 14 points 10 months ago

Very measured take on the man and his contributions, both good and bad. I appreciated that he drew attention to the fact that once people have decided you're a net positive, they just explain away anything bad about you.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thunderf00t

Hard pass. Anyone who decided that the shithead reactionary bigots were the side of gamergate they wanted to support isn't getting views from me, thanks.

[–] Subtlysubtle@sffa.community 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

hbomberguy did a good video on thunderf00t

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Thank you for reminding me about that. Time for a rewatch.

[–] RelentlessArts@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago

I always thought he was legit because he would post great "science" debunking videos and shat on dumb brexiteers. So when I watched the Anita ones I felt the same. Gonna need to watch the hbomber vidya.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Remember Thunderf00t may open himself to lawsuits making these claims publicly. But I'm sure he considered that first, and came to the conclusion, that everything he says, he can document is true. I've run into his material from time to time already from about 15 years ago, and he is 100% a VERY smart guy, that knows what he is talking about.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except about SpaceX, I'm not going to dig though the threads right now, but he's been hilariously wrong about SpaceX in the past. Though not as bad as common sense skeptic though if I'm remembering right.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How is he wrong about SpaceX? As far as I can tell, he is spot on. If a NASA program had as many failures as SpaceX has, it would be closed down. And the economic claims Musk make for SpaceX are insane.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it was the comparisons to other launch vehicles that were very apples to oranges. But as I said, I'd rather not dig through the Reddit threads to find them. I think they were on SpaceX lounge a few years ago? Common sense skeptic commented, but I don't think thunderfoot did.