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CNN reporting on some interesting survey results from the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research in Ramallah. Seven hundred and fifty adults were interviewed face to face in the West Bank, and 481 were interviewed in Gaza, also in person. The Gaza data collection was done during the recent truce, when it was safer for researchers to move about.

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Of course they’re going to support fighting back against a nation murdering their children in broad daylight while the world watches, who could blame them? Many probably didn’t hold those sentiments before this “reprisal” but now..

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Eh, that's not quite what the survey respondents are saying. It's not as simple as "support war, yes or no?":

The survey, which has a four-point margin of error (rather than the usual three-point), found that almost three-quarters (72%) of all respondents believe Hamas’s decision to launch its attack on Israel on October 7 was “correct.” Less than a quarter (22%) said it was “incorrect.”

They're very clearly in favor of the initial attack, not just the response. And it goes further:

In Gaza, support for armed struggle has risen only slightly from 50% in September 2022 (a year before the current war) to 56% in December 2023. In the West Bank, however, support has been rising dramatically from 35% in September 2022 to 54% in September 2023 (a month before the war). This month, polled support for armed struggle reached 68% in the West Bank.

And:

But Shikaki cautions that higher support for Hamas should not be over-stated, at least not yet. As more Palestinians come to terms with the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7, so attitudes could change — though that is unlikely to be the case so long as Gaza remains under massive attack.

Important again is how many people have watched videos from October 7 and the differences between the territories. In Gaza, 25% of those asked said they had viewed such videos; and 16% of all respondents told researchers Hamas had committed war crimes. In the West Bank, the corresponding numbers were just 7% and 1%.

Gaza is moving out of denial more quickly than the West Bank, Shikaki says, and that means a reckoning for Hamas. Already, only 38% of Gazans want to see the militant group return to governance after the war.

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is the part that's Western media doesn't show: Hamas support and animosity towards Israel predates the October attacks, it's a big part of why the Israeli government is responding this way.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I think most Palestinians have some sort of animosity towards Israel for a long time due to apartheid.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (22 children)

Yep.

It's just they (rightfully) feel like diplomacy won't work because there's an obvious mismatch in strength, and the international community has shown not to give a fuck for decades.

It's a slow genocide, or a fighting chance.

They literally have no other option than sitting there waiting to be killed. Who wouldn't want to fight back? Even if they know they can't win.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

the international community has shown not to give a fuck for decades.

The international community does give a fuck - or, at least, the west does. They want to see Israel successfully perpetrate genocide - and they would really appreciate it if everybody would shut up about it.

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[–] duffman@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why does every post miss the fact this poll is about support for the Oct 7th attack, which is what directly lead to the "murdering their children" part.

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[–] GutsBerserk@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Not surprising at all. When you see people around you dying, you either flee or fight... rest is all BS orchestrated by Zionist run media. The core is simple enough.

[–] duffman@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The poll is about the Oct 7th attack.

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[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 8 points 10 months ago

I can’t imagine why, considering how marvellously calm, restrained, and mature Israel has been. I mean it’s not like Israel has been indiscriminately bombing children or something…?

[–] Cymphoni_Fantastique@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

No! That's just what they want! No good will come of it and more people will die! Stay strong, Palestine! The world is with you!

[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hamas is was and is a popular government. Sad given they haven't exactly steered Gaza to a good place.

I'm aware Israel is responsible for leveling Gaza but coming after the hostages was obviously going to happen - what's Hamas's end goal here?

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

what’s Hamas’s end goal here?

Rebellion.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you read their charter principles?

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Noone seems to read anything here "anymore" .. last few months, I don't comment at all without opening the article. It becomes really clear that the worst commenters are not

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