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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When Russians are invited in, is it really the same?

[–] BobVersionFour@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Invited or not i would not touch anything russia is bringing because you know ... polonium and all that

[–] illi@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Russia has tendencies to invade and then strongarm the invaded country to retroactively invite them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not in this case. Lukashenko has been praising and working for Russia for years.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, aware of that. Just saying.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was carious and check death tool to put it in perspective.

From 2014 to 2021 there were estimated 14200 Ukranian death. 3404 of which were civilians.

Since October the estimation is about 13000 Palestinians (the majority of whom were women and children under the age of 14)

These are united nations numbers.

Disgusting...

[–] arirr@lemmy.kde.social 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The Donbass portion of the Russo-Ukrainian war had a fewer belligerents, a lot lower population density, and was fought between conventional combatants. It was also over 6 years.

The Israel-Hamas war has more belligerents, over 50x population density, is fought between a conventional army and an insurgency who has specifically said that safety of the population isn't their problem, and is being run a lot faster than 6 years. Reported death rates have already slowed down a lot.

Also according to the UN: https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm 90% of war time casualties are civilians. The estimated 13k civilians killed in Gaza are weighed against an estimated 7k Hamas killed. That gives about a 2:1 ratio, much better than the global average.

War is always disgusting.

[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Interesting stats thanks

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev -1 points 11 months ago

2:1 is not a better average, not even close. 2:1 is what WW2 had. WW1 had less (close to 1:1).

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Cyprus conflict had been more fitting here. Belarus has been playing with fire all along. If they get burned it will be their own fault

[–] kpw@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't there an interview with Lukashenko where he talks about how proud he would be if Putin makes him a general of the Soviet Union?

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Colonel of Russia

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago

I think its called being allies

[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Belarus wants to work with Russia and be allied with them because they believe it will improve their standard of living. Belarus’s president wouldn’t invite Russia into their country otherwise.

[–] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 16 points 11 months ago

Don’t confuse the people of Belarus with the dictator of Belarus.