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I'm re-reading The Hobbit at the moment. Gandalf might not be a conjurer of cheap tricks, because he's only packing the expensive, high-caliber stuff. (files.mastodon.social)

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I'm re-reading The Hobbit at the moment. Gandalf might not be a conjurer of cheap tricks, because he's only packing the expensive, high-caliber stuff.

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[–] EisFrei@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Gundalf

[–] Urix@ttrpg.network 5 points 11 months ago

Gundam

[–] CareHare@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lemme cap these fools 😤

-Gandalf 'MilF-huntir Double G' the Grey seconds before mowing down some goblins.

[–] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Well he is wielder of the flame of Anor, and I don't think you can put a muzzle on the sun.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Are there guns in LOTR? How would Bilbo know the smell of gunpowder or call it as such?

[–] Imperor@mastodon.social 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@usualsuspect191

The Hobbit has a narrator, who speaks from a "modern" perspective. It describes in the beginning how Hobbits are few now and avoid the tall folk, all that. So I'm fairly sure this is the narrator giving a frame of reference, rather than Bilbo knowing the smell.

Later it is also said that Orcs are cunning inventors of things that kill, including things that kill a lot of people at once.

Not only that, but in LoTR Helms Deeps outer wall is blown up with gun powder or similar.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I thought the Hobbit was meant to be written by Bilbo so a modern narrator explains it.

I knew there were things like explosives and fireworks, but unless guns are a common use, calling black powder "gunpowder" is weird so I wouldn't expect middle earth to have that word.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought the Hobbit was written by Bilbo as an account of his tales only to be translated at a later date by the narrator. Which explains why place names are in the original language but the rest of the book is in english.

[–] Iunnrais@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Correct. To be more specific, in Tolkien lore, Bilbo (and later Frodo adding to it, organizing it, and editing it) wrote the “Red Book of Westmarch” which was later translated by the narrator of the books into the Hobbit and Lordnof the Rings. Many (most?) Tolkien fans prefer to frame things this way when discussing the stories, and for good reason— that’s how Tolkien himself viewed the stories. As a translation of something in another language. He was a linguist, after all.

Wikipedia has a good article on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_of_Westmarch

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 points 11 months ago

There are also things like cuckoo clocks and a reference to a train.

[–] EmpiricalFlock@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago

Fireworks. Gandalf is famous for them.

[–] comrade19@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I love watching Gandelf .45 on YouTube

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

"I'm sorry, you can't pass" Gandalf said calmly.