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Mildly Infuriating

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"we respect the protests, but we will remove everyone that will protest"

the part "decide that don't want to be a mod anymore" is so infuriating and unrespectful. Like they don't know what's goin on...

[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, as a mod, that's the strongest action you could take... stop moderating for free for reddit. "Jun 12, 2023 When they're all functioning normally, Reddit boasts nearly 140,000 active subreddits at any given time" according to https://wegotthiscovered.com/social-media/how-many-subreddits-are-on-reddit/ Now imagine 1 in 10 subreddits were abandoned by their mods. That's 14,000 subreddits without moderation. Let Spez take over the role of the Landed Gentry for 14,000 subreddits. If he thinks he's not making money now, how much will he have to pay to take care of all those subreddits?

[–] NooBoY@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

As much as I agree with you, I have to disagree as well. In the short term they would have to pay their staff to mod those pages. But for how long will it take for them to find another sucker of a mod to do it for free?

Yes it would cost them money but it would not be for long.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But for how long will it take for them to find another sucker of a mod to do it for free?

Modding, especially on larger subs, is a PITA and takes way more time than most people think. You can always find users who say they will do it but in my experience with across several 1M+ subs most new mods will either drop out or go inactive in 3 weeks or less.

Less popular subs in the 250k user range will sometimes only get 1 or 2 volunteers and sometimes no one at all.

It isn't nearly as easy to replace moderators as you're making it out to be.

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[–] Tamhenk@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck em. This is my first post on Lemmy and I'm happy it exists.

[–] lolola@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Does that also mean your first word on Lemmy is "fuck"?

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[–] Phoephus@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dear person volunteering your time and effort for what you thought was a worthy endeavor. We're trying to commodify your work so we can make a killing so don't fuck it up for us.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Dear Spez,

I've learned that Reddit wants to profit from my content. I've therefore decided to monetize my content going forward. I have very reasonable rates of $50 USD per post. $75 USD for long posts.

I'm willing to discuss this with Reddit but these rates are nonnegotiable.

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[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Subreddits belong to the community of users...

Spez, read that again. Slower this time.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's not even true though. Subreddits belong to the user who creates it, they become the top mod and delegate to other mods. If users don't like how a subreddit is moderated, they are free to make their own subreddit - they aren't supposed to take over someone else's subreddit.

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[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Hey mod! Go back working for free so we can make money or we'll take action you peasant. You own nothing. Kneel and obey."

Steve Hoffman probably

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[–] h14h@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit: "Subreddits are for the community of reddit users who rely on them."

Community of reddit users: "We think the sub should stay private, and if you force it open, we'll spam sexy John Oliver and porn."

Reddit: "wait no not like that"

This message is mind-blowingly tone deaf.

[–] Flipht@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It's not tone deaf so much as it's gaslighting. Their intention isn't to get compliance or work through any of the valid concerns - their intention seems to be to cover themselves and give plausible deniability for potential investors.

They're sending this to mods as if they are the audience, which we know is not the case since anything the mods say is not actually considered.

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[–] ritswd@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (14 children)

“Reopen this, or else!”

But they’re carefully avoiding to say or else what. My guess is every next step option would cost them resources at the scale of subreddits they’re reaching out to, so they’re hoping that the empty threat alone will cause some to relent without costing them anything. Right?

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[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 19 points 1 year ago
[–] RinktheDink@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Subreddita belong to the community is not what reddit says when mods abuse their power

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago

Open it back up and just stop moderating it? Make them mildly infuriated that you're acting your wage.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Alright. They can hire some employees to moderate all of Reddit then.

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[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Moderating is volunteer work. *Spez exhibits unlikeable characteristics. Why volunteer for someone who exhibits unlikeable characteristics?

*Edited from "Spez is a narcissist. Why volunteer for a narcissist?"

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[–] c_c_combobreaker17@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck em. God its nice to be able to say "fuck em" without having to worry about elon or spez getting butthurt and banning my account.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Roses are red, violets are blue. Open your sub, or we'll boot you too.

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[–] owatnext@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

LMAO I got this too. Probably just gonna open 'er back up with minimal mod-activity. Let the bots and NSFW problems flow rampant.

[–] ventusx@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] crabapplesteam@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im a reddit mod with a sub over 20 million - today they removed our top mod, and then sent us a message saying that 'we requested a re-ordering'. It's total bullshit.

[–] esadatari@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

i wish they'd just fucking nut up and be up front about it. then you can at least see it in plain view as can everyone else.

"we're putting down dissent, regardless of if it kills our site usage or valuation. get on board or fuck off." is the exact same thing that's occurring, but is at least slightly more respectable than this microsoft-esque "we're doing this for your own good (whether you like it or not)" approach.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.fmhy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"subreddits belong to the community of users who come to the for support" good way to justify kicking a mod with a passion for such a community and forcing people to post only the things you want.

Because if you force people to have fun they'll be happy, of course.

Mhm I just got info that a certain Poo the bear wants to talk to you about strongarming communities. But don't worry, his methods definitely work.

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[–] hydra@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

a duty to keep these spaces active Redditors rely on these spaces for information, support, entertainment, and connection.

I thought it was private property lmao. Conversation spaces shouldn't act as public plazas when they're private.

[–] emi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

Fuck Spez, Lemmy is doing alright. (I like community ran solutions better anyway)

[–] green_dragon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are slowly taking away the platforms of free speech. First they came for the self hosted websites; then they changed the search engine functions; then they came for twitter; now they are at Reddit. Make no mistake this is not just about an IPO. This is about controlling how the public communicates. Discourse is discouraged.

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[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Subreddits belong to the community of users…

So you're providing tools to allow democratic control of subreddits, right?

Right?

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[–] WillardHerman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just deleted three of my reddit accounts. I am done. As an artist, I have more work to do on my primary current account. I feel I should delete my art from reddit so that they can not make money from my art and music.

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[–] Ekeko@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Can’t wait to see Reddit crash and burn

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

lol, "subreddits belong to the community of users..." clearly doesn't belong to the users. That's the whole problem

[–] Fernis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's interesting how during numerous examples of users trying to fight mod teams over changing direction of the sub, new rules, unwanted new mods etc., and getting admins involved, the answer was ALWAYS the same "Subs are owned by their creators/mods. If you don't like it you can always create a new one".

Suddenly they belong to communieties? Communities that in numerous examples voted by themselves to stay closed? How absolutely full of shit they are...

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[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the condescension here - your protest is "taking a break from moderating"

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's corporate rhetoric.

They define the reality they want their audience (press, investors) to see: No protests, no demands, no conflict with Reddit, just moderators not taking their job seriously while Reddit is taking its communities seriously and reaching out in good faith and with empathy.

Then they go all method actor and assume this reality, and start writing.

[–] Apollorbust@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m so glad that we have an alternative to Reddit!

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[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

r/modcodeofconduct is spez. I guarantee it

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[–] DBT@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s hilarious to me that they are telling subs that they can’t just switch the NSFW button on like that, after they recently made the vape communities go NSFW against their will.

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[–] Alwaysfallingupyup@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Subreddits belong to the community of users". Followed by "a path forward to make sure your subreddit is available... which is it?? lol

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Guessing they’ll just restore a backup from before the shutdown and install new Reddit backed mods. I can’t see this really going any other way. Maybe the subscribed users will drop out of the restored subreddit, but I’m guessing most people just won’t care.

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[–] snowadv@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like "Yeah. Sometimes people accidently fall on the knife with their stomach you know. After that they prefer removing it and putting back for a few times to ease pain"

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] AbsolutePain@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

A few days ago I didn't have a single reason to leave reddit. Yet, with so many reasons now, here I am, and I look forward to lemmy and kbin.

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[–] ChrislyBear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I just blocked *.reddit.com on my DNS servers. This page is history.

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