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No, he’s doing it because otherwise he won’t be compliant with the Digital Market Act, as a “gatekeeper”. That’s why this is happening at the same time as launching in Europe.

I agree, but remember that the last step is to discontinue ActivityPub integration so people will move from mastodon over to threads to keep up with the content they got on mastodon from threads

If you’re already up and running on Mastodon and can interact with people on Threads, there’s literally no reason to swap one for the other.

This is about encouraging new users to join Facebook instead of one of those other Mastodon instances. Realistically, what percentage of people who join Threads will consider joining Mastodon or an independence instance instead when Facebook decides to drop support for Mastodon federation? I would guess that number at 1% or less. In other words, 99% of all Threads users are stuck there for the entire term of their service, never actually joining Mastodon.

The point of Facebook investing all of this money into setting up Threads is to eliminate competition from decentralized services. They are terrified that they are losing all of the control over the Internet that they have slowly acquired over the past 15 years or so, they are trying to take it back and destroy the competing network of federated independent services.

They won't at the start. But they will after they made friends on threads and then threads breaks the federation again. The people in threads will not move to the fediverse because most of the people they interact with are on threads. They might not even notice that the federation broke. But for the people on the fediverse it will feel as if a large part of their social circle just disappeared.

But before that threads will already make things worse for non threads users. They will start extending the protocol in such a way that fediverse servers won't be able to keep up. They will find undefined cases in the protocol and start using them causing other servers to break/degrade. They will start one-sided slowdown of federation causing people to blame the server they are on instead of threads. Etc.

Curious users can find the fediverse anyway if there were interested in changing social media platforms. Meta has NO good reasonable use to integrate the fediverse. Compared to Metas cumulative social media user size we are but a tiny hub of users. So here again: there is NO good reason for them to just causally go "oh hi guys, let's be friends!" The only reason is to extinguish competition before it gets larger. It's like Starbucks slapping down a store next to your local coffee shop because "wow we both like coffee, let's be friends so our customers can enjoy coffee together and have a talk!" It's a deceptive strategy.

In this reply you haven't actually addressed any of the reasons I brought up for why federating with Threads is a horrible idea.

Say it, he is a Jew and you hate him for it.

Yeah why? Wanna chat?

Threads is already much much igger than the entire Fediverse, I don't see what is there to lose?

Currently tge Fediverse is mostly drawing in tech geeks, which are unlikely to leave either way. Federation with Threads might actually pull in "normal" users.

That solely depends on you! There will always be a need for a decentralized open source social media network and as long as there isn't any other alternative that can achieve that the people who rely on it won't go anywhere.

It’s already irrelevant, it’s never been. The Fediverse is well over a decade old and most people don’t know it exists.