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I wish the world was as enthusiastic about saving hundreds of women and children as it is about saving 5 fucking millionaires or billionaires.
I agree with you, its infuriating that a news story about a bunch of billionaires lost in a homebrew sub is stealing the thunder of a lot of more important, much more tragic news.
But its a less complicated story for people to latch on to, it doesnt challenge people to do something about it... thats a big reason why its overshadowing these other stories. (Also theres maybe a bit of public Schadenfreude. I mean at a time when most people cant afford food or rent, I can see how a story about the super rich enaging in something so expensive, and dangerous might capture peoples attention.
But its also just a very compelling event. Though it focusses on the super rich... i dont know, people are just fascinated by disasters and deep sea exploration (myself included) and Ive never seen a story like this unfold in real time. So I think its worth following and discussing, but I agree that it shouldnt be totally dominating the news like this.
While I agree with the sentiment, doesn't your own article state that immediately after the incident, multiple countries launched a group search and rescue mission which saved a lot of the victims?
The story about the millionaires, at least to me, is less about the fact that they're millionaires, and more about the fact that we have tourist visits to the remains of the Titanic. At this point I don't know who was on that tiny submersible but I'm intrigued with the tech and what could have gone wrong.
the ugly truth is that immigrants drowning isn't news, it's just normal business, that's why they are trying to save the millionaires, and also why firemen send a chopper to rescue a cow stuck in ice while there are others getting chopped up a couple of miles away.
you can have interest in both. the news can't constantly keep people's focus on things that happen every day, people stop caring. also your own article states there was action taken.
I guess I kinda understand your frustration but if you choose to look at everything from that angle you might as well not participate in the news, it will burn you out
It's disgusting, bit that's the fucked up world we live in. Same reason we do corporate bailouts and tax cuts for the rich but can't ensure that every kid has food to eat.
Actually, while it may seem fucked up at first glance... if you really think long and hard about it, you'll realize it's actually really fucked up.
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Then it'll be at least a couple of days until they can even get the button mapping working reliably. These people are screwed.
Yeah the sad part is that, really, the best we can hope for is a post mortem. Rescue is almost impossible in this situation.
Why do we care? We know what happened - this thing was built like shit. How come taxpayers have to foot some bill to tow these dead rich fucks?
People are still people, man. If they have the money maybe they should pay back the rescue efforts if found alive (which won’t happen), but it kinda sucks to say “welp bye” and let half a dozen people slowly die if you could’ve helped.
On the other hand if it's 500 poor people fuck'em
There's nothing to rescue except a waterlogged carbon fiber tube filled with gore.
There are reports that acoustic systems picked up banging noises at 30 minute intervals. Until I heard that, I was convinced it had imploded. Now I'm not so sure, and it'll only be worse if they aren't rescued. Implosion would at least have been fast.
I heard about that, but I find it very unlikely that they could make a noise loud enough on the carbon fiber hull, not exactly known for it's acoustic properties and the resin acts as a sound damper. I'm not a material or acoustic engineer though, so who knows. Plus, the article did say that the sounds had stopped.
If it was actually them, I'd guess they were banging on the titanium end cap.
When asked whether his submersible could be used to rescue those on the Titan before they run out of breathable air, Newell looked up from his crowbar and said only "These things, they take time."
You do not need a manned sub though most likely. Plenty of ROVs can go that deep and latch onto it. This is how they recover other things that end up on the ocean floor including other ROVs that got stuck researching the titanic.
Yes seems no practical craft is actually able to reach them to recover their sub from that depth. There was no wire to pull them back up. The sub can't be opened from the inside, even if it had surfaced somewhere. There'll need to be a serious rethink about the safety design.
There’ll need to be a serious rethink about the safety design.
The owner is on record saying he thinks safety regulations are bogus an he's actively looked to cutting corners because you can't live in safety our whole life.
This whole thing was a stupid mess. I can't even really muster any sympathy for this situation because everyone made boneheaded decisions every step of the process. Including controlling thrust and control surfaces with a wireless PC controller because you're too much of a spedthrift to spend 10k on some deep sea cable glands and build an actual fly by wire system for your 1.25 million dollar trips to the bottom of the oceans.
Wait whaaaaaaat? They seriously used wireless PC controller for thrust and control surfaces?
Oh my god. If that's true that might be the most brain dead thing I've ever read today. Can you please give me a source, I have to know more about this now. :0
Edit: holy shit. I'm watching SomeOrdinaryGamers' video.
I can't speak to the sub, but many Navy ships were retrofitted with systems to be controlled by XBox 360 controllers. Turns out training new people on the controller had huge improvements over the old systems.
EOD also has robots controlled by a "game controller". So do many drones.
This isn't a "crazy" thing to do. (except if it's wireless. Keep that cable)
You're right if it would have been an xbox controller, it wouldn't have been crazy.
It was actually a basically ancient Logitech Controller, which had connection problems even when you use it inside your home in front of your pc.
I guess they can be pretty safe from radio interference there, at least :).
I doubt the connectivity issues need to exist, though, probably works just fine in some configurations. What I'm wondering though if they had a spare, and maybe a second spare, and space batteries, on the boat. Or possibly manual override (doesn't sound like it).
I think the device itself is fine, though it might be indicative of too aggressive cost cutting measures.
Which safety design?
Imagine if aero transport industry was allowed to cut corners like this and still offer services to passengers.
So, what you're saying is that a Steam Controller is a better choice of diving equipment than the Logitech PlayStation knock off?
Gaben to the rescue?
No... Take note of the title, "that could reach". Not "that could save". There's no rescue. The only thing people could get is proper closure from this.
I heard he's going to make a big announcement...but given his history, it may actually have to do with some artifacts he wants to find down there :)