RFK will take more from Trump, not Biden. Turns out nut cases hang together.
this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2023
-9 points (34.5% liked)
politics
19097 readers
3062 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
RFK will take more from Trump, not Biden.
"Trump's lead widened to a 5-point advantage when respondents were given an option to vote for Kennedy."
However:
"In the seven states where the election was closest in 2020 -- Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Michigan -- Biden had a 4-point lead among Americans who said they were sure to vote."
À NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll found Joe Biden edging Donald Trump in a 2024 head-to-head match up, 49% to 46%.
However, in a three-way contest with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running as an independent, Biden opens up a 7-point lead over Trump, 44% to 37% with 16% for Kennedy.
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/the-2024-presidential-contest/
Now that's an October poll, but I doubt it's changed much.
Yeah, I think it just reiterates that it's close, which is unbelievable in itself.
But, overall, it's still way too early to say anything with certainty. A year in politics is an eternity.
True. But as far as a RFK bid goes, Biden will ignore him and Trump will attack him.
GW Bush became instantly popular in a few days after 9/11. Trump suffered from his handling of COVID so close to the vote. A single event can make or break a candidate in significantly less time than a year.
It's far and away too early to be making predictions.
Nobody said it wasn't. It's just interesting to see these kinds of polls to look into the tea leaves of campaign strategy.
That is interesting, I agree. Also, glad that's not my job.
I dunno. Centrists love voting for the second worst option.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON, Dec 12 (Reuters) - A looming election rematch next year between U.S. President Joe Biden and his predecessor Donald Trump would be closely fought, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found, with both candidates saddled with profound vulnerabilities that could cost them the White House.
Republican former President Trump, 77, faces his own worries, including four criminal trials on a bevy of charges related to his attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election and his handling of classified documents.
The state-by-state Electoral College system used to pick presidents, and deep-seated partisan divides, mean that voters in just a handful of states will play a decisive role in the election's outcome.
In the seven states where the election was closest in 2020 -- Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Michigan -- Biden had a 4-point lead among Americans who said they were sure to vote.
But his candidacy likely will be buttressed by the public's continued support of abortion rights, as well as his advocacy for gun control, climate-change measures and higher taxes on the ultra-rich, the new poll showed.
Fifty-four percent of respondents agreed with a statement that "immigration is making life harder for native-born Americans," with a similar share saying Trump was the better candidate for the issue.
The original article contains 712 words, the summary contains 210 words. Saved 71%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Fifty-four percent of respondents agreed with a statement that “immigration is making life harder for native-born Americans,”
In what way? Seriously. In what way has anyone's life been seriously negatively impacted by immigration- legal or illegal- apart from a few edge cases?
Because I seriously doubt 54% of the country has had any sort of direct impact from immigrants. The only time a lot of them even talk to immigrants is at Chinese and Mexican restaurants.
Imaginary tech jobs they aren't qualified for in the first place taken by people on H-1B Visas?
"Man, I could be pulling down serious cash with Amazon if it wasn't for all them immigrants!"
Yeah my dude, THAT'S the barrier to entry... 🙄
I really don't see how rfk is a threat to biden. why would anyone voting for biden do rfk instead?
so same shit same election
no point for writing new news articles then just grab from the stack of propaganda and reuse over and over
maybe we could remove term limits and just have the same election every four years
nobody would have to think too hard on who to vote for then and we could even skip the candidates making campaign promises
no way elections are not rigged against the people some citizens are not allowed to participate by voting