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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

RFK will take more from Trump, not Biden. Turns out nut cases hang together.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

RFK will take more from Trump, not Biden.

"Trump's lead widened to a 5-point advantage when respondents were given an option to vote for Kennedy."

However:

"In the seven states where the election was closest in 2020 -- Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Michigan -- Biden had a 4-point lead among Americans who said they were sure to vote."

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

À NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll found Joe Biden edging Donald Trump in a 2024 head-to-head match up, 49% to 46%.

However, in a three-way contest with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running as an independent, Biden opens up a 7-point lead over Trump, 44% to 37% with 16% for Kennedy.

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/the-2024-presidential-contest/

Now that's an October poll, but I doubt it's changed much.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I think it just reiterates that it's close, which is unbelievable in itself.

But, overall, it's still way too early to say anything with certainty. A year in politics is an eternity.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

True. But as far as a RFK bid goes, Biden will ignore him and Trump will attack him.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

GW Bush became instantly popular in a few days after 9/11. Trump suffered from his handling of COVID so close to the vote. A single event can make or break a candidate in significantly less time than a year.

It's far and away too early to be making predictions.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nobody said it wasn't. It's just interesting to see these kinds of polls to look into the tea leaves of campaign strategy.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

That is interesting, I agree. Also, glad that's not my job.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I dunno. Centrists love voting for the second worst option.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON, Dec 12 (Reuters) - A looming election rematch next year between U.S. President Joe Biden and his predecessor Donald Trump would be closely fought, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found, with both candidates saddled with profound vulnerabilities that could cost them the White House.

Republican former President Trump, 77, faces his own worries, including four criminal trials on a bevy of charges related to his attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election and his handling of classified documents.

The state-by-state Electoral College system used to pick presidents, and deep-seated partisan divides, mean that voters in just a handful of states will play a decisive role in the election's outcome.

In the seven states where the election was closest in 2020 -- Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Michigan -- Biden had a 4-point lead among Americans who said they were sure to vote.

But his candidacy likely will be buttressed by the public's continued support of abortion rights, as well as his advocacy for gun control, climate-change measures and higher taxes on the ultra-rich, the new poll showed.

Fifty-four percent of respondents agreed with a statement that "immigration is making life harder for native-born Americans," with a similar share saying Trump was the better candidate for the issue.


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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fifty-four percent of respondents agreed with a statement that “immigration is making life harder for native-born Americans,”

In what way? Seriously. In what way has anyone's life been seriously negatively impacted by immigration- legal or illegal- apart from a few edge cases?

Because I seriously doubt 54% of the country has had any sort of direct impact from immigrants. The only time a lot of them even talk to immigrants is at Chinese and Mexican restaurants.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Imaginary tech jobs they aren't qualified for in the first place taken by people on H-1B Visas?

"Man, I could be pulling down serious cash with Amazon if it wasn't for all them immigrants!"

Yeah my dude, THAT'S the barrier to entry... 🙄

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

I really don't see how rfk is a threat to biden. why would anyone voting for biden do rfk instead?

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

so same shit same election

no point for writing new news articles then just grab from the stack of propaganda and reuse over and over

maybe we could remove term limits and just have the same election every four years

nobody would have to think too hard on who to vote for then and we could even skip the candidates making campaign promises

no way elections are not rigged against the people some citizens are not allowed to participate by voting