Imagine having to get a judge to signoff on any other medical procedure, and it really highlights the absurdity.
...this feels a lot like the death panels a certain sect was screeching about back in 2008/2009
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Instead, I have to wait for the insurance company to sign off on every medical procedure. Not the same, but still garbage.
Imagine having to get a judge to signoff on any other medical procedure
Ehh...I think that's a little different in that they needed a judge to determine who had the right to make medical decisions for her. The judge themselves weren't making the call for what should be done, only if it was her husband or parents who had the right to make medical decisions.
This is more along the lines of my appendix is on the verge of bursting. I want it removed. My doctor recommends removal and is willing and able to do so. The govt says I don't think it's bad enough yet and if you do it now I will criminally charge you. Wait until it explodes and you are at risk for sepsis before I will allow you to undergo surgery, despite the fact I have zero medical experience.
Fair point, I hadn't thought of it in those terms.
Related, could you imagine having to ask a private, for profit, organization for permission? The same organization that would have to pay money out?
Good thing we avoided those death panels.
Judge Dredd
Judge, jury, and executioner
Texas judge grants permission for woman to access healthcare.
That's what really happened.
Getting the government to sign your permission slip before being allowed necessary medical care
Just small government things
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“There are no facts pled which demonstrate that Ms. Cox is at any more of a risk, let alone life-threatening, than the countless women who give birth every day with similar medical histories,” the state wrote
Wow. They really don't get it, do they?
No, they get it. And that is so much worse.
"We're being just as cruel to her as every other woman in Texas; why should she get special treatment!?"
Of course they don't. They're men. If THEY were the ones who could get pregnant, you bet your damn life that there'd be "Get Your Free Abortion Here" clinics on every corner of every street in every city around the globe.
Were this my wife and this bullshit caused her to die the only viable path I could see is personally watching myself squeeze the life out of every single one of these morally bankrupt shit stains. Such utter trash. I don't know why we haven't exiled these cultists from civil society.
You are the sort of person we need wearing the Punisher symbol. Not these wannabe cops.
I'd vote not-guilty for you if we were ever in court.
That decision is likely to be appealed by the state, which argued that Cox does not meet the criteria for a medical exception.
Great, hold it up in the appeals courts to get the stupid outcome you want regardless of whether you win the appeal, the State. This is the definition of abusing the judicial system.
Oh everything took too long and now you can't get an abortion? Tee hee.
I mean, it's in the article. This pregnancy, which will not survive, has a significant chance of destroying any chance that she can ever carry another pregnancy if allowed to come to term.
To preserve her ability to carry another healthy pregnancy to term, this one must be terminated.
Doctors do things every day to prevent serious harm later and this should not be a situation that demands a woman and her doctor to freaking BEG a judge for permission to be able to follow the medical recommendation.
It's Texas, they literally don't care about this poor woman and the crap situation their philosophy has put her in, in fact they don't even really care about the baby, despite their claims to the country, they just like having power to impose their oppressive worldview on everyone else. They couldn't give a flying rat about the consequences.
100 billion percent this
“The idea that Ms. Cox wants so desperately to be a parent and this law may have her lose that ability is shocking and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice,” Gamble said.
I can't decide if that's a clever choice of words, or a really poor choice of words.
Can I go to court and get their permission to jerk off since it's killing a couple trillion babies?
It’s always better to ask forgiveness than permission.
Don’t ask if you don’t want the answer.
They will tell you it’s a sin to jerk off and will probably try to pass legislation making that illegal, too.
Just rub one out and move on…
Somebody in Texas has common sense.
It's a big state. The law of large numbers ought to apply.
"Texas isn't a red state, it's a non-voting state, so it's a red state."
inb4 they jail the judge
That's a precedent! LET'S GOOOOOOOO
I wish. It's a temporary restraining order that only applies to Kate Cox.
Oh isn't that the pinnacle of christian goodness for his highness the judge to dismount from his high manly horse long enough to grant a lowly peasant commoner, and a WOMAN no less, the right to get the healthcare she requires. Let's all bow down and kiss his royal purple ass in thanks. Thank you, conservative men, for ensuring that all women and girls no longer have to be burdened by independence and self care. What a noble gesture.
The judge is a woman.
That's very different. (looks into the camera). Never mind! I now know that to be the case, it was reported on the news last night. Sorry for my flying off the handle. I just assumed the judge was male - is that some kind of reverse chauvinism?
The judge didn't write the law and SHE was the one that granted the exception, dumbass
Ok you goddamn fucking scumbag, thanks for clarifying that. And being so classy about it.
So, tomorrow we should be seeing tons of articles about all the death threats he’s receiving from the cowardly conservatives then?
No need, the TX supreme Court just issued a temporary injunction blocking this decision pending scrutiny. Subjecting medical decisions to the court system is what Texas does because they love freedom and small government.
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