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Daystrom Institute

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Welcome to Daystrom Institute!

Serious, in-depth discussion about Star Trek from both in-universe and real world perspectives.

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Rules

1. Explain your reasoning

All threads and comments submitted to the Daystrom Institute must contain an explanation of the reasoning put forth.

2. No whinging, jokes, memes, and other shallow content.

This entire community has a “serious tag” on it. Shitposts are encouraged in Risa.

3. Be diplomatic.

Participate in a courteous, objective, and open-minded fashion. Be nice to other posters and the people who make Star Trek. Disagree respectfully and don’t gatekeep.

4. Assume good faith.

Assume good faith. Give other posters the benefit of the doubt, but report them if you genuinely believe they are trolling. Don’t whine about “politics.”

5. Tag spoilers.

Historically Daystrom has not had a spoiler policy, so you may encounter untagged spoilers here. Ultimately, avoiding online discussion until you are caught up is the only certain way to avoid spoilers.

6. Stay on-topic.

Threads must discuss Star Trek. Comments must discuss the topic raised in the original post.

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[–] Seamus_Guevara@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for making this place. And sorry for the flak yer getting on Reddit, it sucks. I lurked there for a long time & just want ye to know I get the hard work that goes into the content & keeping it well run that makes lurking possible & enjoyable.

It's mad to me seeing the difference in support on old daystrom vs say what the mods of r/worldbuilding are experiencing (still a few loud voices but much more supportive overall).

[–] Kestrel@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some (okay, quite a lot) of that pushback seems really weird to me. There's so many people pontificating about the "convenience" of Reddit, and having access to every community on the same platform... somehow failing to realize that an Internet browser is, itself, a single platform that can access everything and that clicking on a specific sub from a website's drop-down menu is functionally no different from clicking a bookmarked webpage from a browser's drop-down menu.

I think folks are just scared of change and upset at the (minimal) inconvenience of having to set up a new account elsewhere.

It doesn’t take long to find communities with the Lemmy Community-Browser.

Yes, it would be easier if we could just join from the sidebars without having to copy to your own instance’s search page. But once you’ve subscribed, it’s fairly seamless and avoids an algorithm pushing subs at you.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Pulling the trigger as well. I think Ive been looking for a reason to jump ship for a long time now, and this is it.

👋

Not really sure what I'm doing, but as I've seen some sub branching out over here, finally pulled the trigger and made an account. We'll see how this goes.

[–] lalafalala@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I too have no idea what I'm doing, but despite my initial doubts (and thanks to some helpful folks over on r/startrek explaining how this works), I do appear to be doing it, and I am glad to be here with all of you.

(My first Lemmy comment ever! So happy it's here on the Star Trek instance!).

[–] Kestrel@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's hoping this takes off! In retrospect it probably would've been smarter for me to pick the same username as my Reddit account, but given how few people have registered here so far, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to grab Kestrel.

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Genuinely so happy to find Daystrom here. Probably one of my favourite subs.

Does this mean I'm an ensign again?

Pleased to be here with you all! I'm a Daystrom lurker and lunchtime at work would be awful without all the insightful posts to read.

[–] mewtenantworf@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Glad this sub will survive! Although I'm a bit sad to lose my flair, I just got promoted to Jr Lieutenant.

[–] williams_482@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

Welcome aboard, Lieutenant!

[–] JCPhoenix@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Excited to see you guys on the Lemmyverse! The subreddit was always one of those places I could get lost in for hours. Now I can do it here!

[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for starting this! I found another Daystrom Institute on here but it seems dead. Looking forward to all the great discussion!

Well... I was wondering which Lemmy instance to create my "Algernon_Asimov" account on. Thanks for solving that dilemma!

[–] CaptainTightpants@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Great, guys. I go through the trouble of purchasing "daystrominstitute.us" and standing up a Digital Ocean droplet and just found out that somebody way more competent beat me to the punch! /s

I'd like to share a few thoughts, if I may.

I still don't know the technical abilities of the Fediverse at-large and how customizable individual servers are. So some of these may be impossible or irrelevant.

~~1) I'd like to see a summary page of hosting costs with the ability to help out. We're kinda on our own here and nobody should have to bear the Brunt alone.~~

~~2) It would be nice to see an onboarding wiki to show new users. Maybe explaining how the concepts here map to their equivalent Reddit terms.~~

  1. Since (I'm assuming) this is a hosted cloud instance from one of our more technically inclined officers, it may also be good to have a page of other devops type people who can help out with server tasks when needed.

With that said, I'm genuinely thrilled to see people back and can't wait to dive back in to reading fanon so detailed that it makes a doctoral dissertation look like a shopping list.

Cheers!

Edit: Perusing the threads and it looks like most everything I wanted is already here!

[–] peterfonda3@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m still trying to figure out how an arrogant scientist whose creation killed over 450 Starfleet crew members on two starships and then went insane himself got a prominent technological institute named after him.

[–] williams_482@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, well, other than that he was great!

[–] zombiepete@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I would make the case that in the Star Trek future, people have learned to be able to see beyond an individual’s mistakes (even egregious ones). The M-5 was certainly a dangerous mistake, but Daystrom had good intentions and was working on a project of great interest to Starfleet Command. The results were completely unintentional on Daystrom’s part, and he clearly was not emotionally stable by the time “The Ultimate Computer” occurs, so I think that in light of the many tremendous impacts Daystrom had in computing that society was able to understand and forgive.

[–] Desert_Artificer@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi everyone! I'm glad to see Daystrom has its own continuity of government bunker.

It looks like M-5 is hard at work archiving posts. Is it grabbing old PoTWs or working off some other criteria?

[–] williams_482@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

It looks like M-5 is hard at work archiving posts. Is it grabbing old PoTWs or working off some other criteria?

Currently the criteria is "was it on the wiki and did someone message Reddit modmail asking for it (or something closely related to it)". So M-5 isn't actually working very hard at all at the moment, but that can change!

We don't currently plan to repost things that other put on Daystrom's main site, but we do encourage people to repost things they were proud of from their own comment history if they feel so inclined. We intend to reopen the site in read-only mode before too much longer, which should make that process easier, and in the long run we'd like to put together some kind of comprehensive off-site archive with proper credit given to submitters. Alternately, if there's something from the wiki you would like to see preserved here, let us know and M-5 will set to work on it.

[–] dcpDarkMatter@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Posting this from my kbin account - good to see the Federation is working!

[–] Jerichi@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope we can find KhaosWorks and some of the other Daystrom regulars over here. I'd be lost without their breakdowns ):

[–] khaosworks@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, my breakdown is ready to go as soon as I figure out where to post it! Thanks for the support!

[–] Jerichi@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Hooray! Excited to see you here too! Now it will truly feel like Daystrom for me at least.

[–] Schedar@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Happy to be here. Good timing with SNW starting back up again this week.

Just a thought though: Traditionally Daystrom (and the other ST subreddits) had no spoiler rules.

As we don’t have the same sort of tools to temporarily filter keywords or group communities rather than subscribe etc perhaps we could try to be a bit spoiler conscious (at least for the very latest new episode) - give people a chance to catch up.

Testing

Hello Worlds

[–] OBthe2nd@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

Why not create a spoilers subforum here - at least until this community has grown enough and the mod tools understood well enough to enforce the One Week rule?

[–] williams_482@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point, we're going to have to play it a little differently regarding spoilers to start out. Long term I expect to keep the same core philosophy on spoilers, but for an immature community we need to be a little more selective.

[–] Lockely@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'd be down for matching the weekly spoiler rule that kept all discussion related to a specific episode in its megathread until the next episode was out, if not a bit longer.

[–] Albert_Newton@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From 86000 members to 300. Hopefully Reddit backs down.

[–] Interesting@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either Reddit will back down, or it will very quickly grow. I would worry more for /r/startrek, but this community doesn't have a peer anywhere else.

[–] Bonolio@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not going to grow much.
95% of redditors won't make the shift.
The Startrek community on Reddit is just going to start spinning up new subreddits to replace the ones that were closed.
Sure, it will take some time for the new communities to reestablish but it will happen.

I support and regularly use federated systems and support the principals of the Startrek subs that have moved, but the reality is that societally/practically we are a long way from people choosing to move away from the various MegaSocials.

[–] Lockely@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We've had people try to spin up alternates for years and they haven't taken off, except with certain groups of people who can't help but miss the entire point of Star Trek.

The moderators are as much responsible for the community as the platform is. These communities are growing exceedingly fast, and it's not like Lemmy isn't just slightly jankier old.reddit anyway.

[–] Bonolio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I suspect people being people there will be a larger surge to the Fediverse once third party apps start failing.
Just to be clear, I have no objections to the move, and agree with the stance, I just have doubts about people leaving their places of convenience.
In general I find the kind of person that moves to the fediverse to more interesting anyway.
Wishing this community success

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