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  1. When (first) orbital flight? First integrated flight test occurred April 20, 2023. "The vehicle cleared the pad and beach as Starship climbed to an apogee of ~39 km over the Gulf of Mexico – the highest of any Starship to-date. The vehicle experienced multiple engines out during the flight test, lost altitude, and began to tumble. The flight termination system was commanded on both the booster and ship."
  2. Where can I find streams of the launch? SpaceX Full Livestream. NASASpaceFlight Channel. Lab Padre Channel. Everyday Astronaut Channel.
  3. What's happening next? SpaceX has assessed damage to Stage 0 and is implementing fixes and changes including a water deluge/pad protection/"shower head" system. No major repairs to key structures appear to be necessary.
  4. When is the next flight test? Just after flight, Elon stated they "Learned a lot for next test launch in a few months." On April 29, he reiterated this estimate in a Twitter Spaces Q&A (summarized here), saying "I'm glad to report that the pad damage is actually quite small," should "be repaired quickly," and "From a pad standpoint, we are probably ready to launch in 6 to 8 weeks." Requalifying the flight termination system (FTS) and the FAA post-incident review will likely require the longest time to complete. Musk reiterated the timeline on May 26, stating "Major launchpad upgrades should be complete in about a month, then another month of rocket testing on pad, then flight 2 of Starship."
  5. Why no flame diverter/flame trench below the OLM? Musk tweeted on April 21: "3 months ago, we started building a massive water-cooled, steel plate to go under the launch mount. Wasn’t ready in time & we wrongly thought, based on static fire data, that Fondag would make it through 1 launch." Regarding a trench, note that the Starship on the OLM sits 2.5x higher off the ground than the Saturn V sat above the base of its flame trench, and the OLM has 6 exits vs. 2 on the Saturn V trench.

Quick Links

RAPTOR ROOST | LAB CAM | SAPPHIRE CAM | SENTINEL CAM | ROVER CAM | ROVER 2.0 CAM | PLEX CAM | NSF STARBASE

Relevant Reddit threads (though these likely won't be accessible during the blackout).

Starship Dev 46 | Starship Dev 45 | Starship Dev 44 | Starship Dev 43 | Starship Thread List

Official Starship Update | r/SpaceX Update Thread


Status

Road Closures

No road closures currently scheduled

No transportation delays currently scheduled

Up to date as of 2023-07-09


Resources

I'll attempt to keep this post current with links and major updates, but would be greatly helped by information supplied by the community. I hope this can be an alternate place to discuss Starship development. While the Starship Development Threads on Reddit are not party threads, Lemmy is still small enough that I don't imagine that strict moderation will be needed in the short term.

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[–] few@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Additional views from yesterday’s Ship 25 static fire https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1673808523497721856?s=19

[–] LettuceTurnipTheBeet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The big plate is on the transport stand and moving under the OLM as we speak.

That was quick! I thought the concrete would have to set a bit longer before taking such a load but apparently not.

[–] LettuceTurnipTheBeet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The Deluge plates are ready to move to the OLM. Here’s a really nice shot: https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1676965314989539328?s=20

[–] LettuceTurnipTheBeet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

New comment from /u/santacfan on Reddit:

Starbase Live-

7:11am- Grover starts to wake up

7:13am- Dance floor drives under OLM

7:22am- Dance floor wings unfolded

7:23am- Grover delivers a cryo pipe over to the doghouse area

7:24am- Dance floor raised into position

7:38am- LR11000 looks like it’s hooked to a manifold

8:23am- Grover delivers another cryo pipe. This time partly up the leg where the cryo pipes run. Looks like they are replacing them through the access holes

9:15am- Lots of concrete being broke up and hauled away by a front end loader

9:39am- The extended reach excavator that had been working in the area where the deluge pipes will go, left.

9:55am- Grover lifts the yellow basket normally used to take down scaffolding to the top of the OLM.

10:33am- Yellow basket brought down

12:00pm- All is quiet on the southern front. Pretty slow day after the last couple.

1:01pm- Grover lifts the yellow basket back up to the OLM

1:31pm- Basket comes down

1:43pm- Basket goes back up

1:46pm- Basket comes back down

1:56pm- Basket goes up

2:02pm- Basket go down

2:07pm- Basket go up

2:15pm- Basket go down

2:30pm- First piece of level 4 for the new mega bay is lifted

2:47pm- Basket go up

2:55pm- Basket go down

3:09pm- Grover lifts a load of something metal up to the top of the OLM

3:25pm- Grover lifts a 2nd load to the top of the OLM

3:42pm- Grover lifts a 3rd load to the top of the OLM

4:07pm- Long reach excavator returns

5:50pm- The LR11000 took tension on the lifting straps that have been connected to the manifold piece all day.

6:24pm- Manifold is lifted

6:25pm- Crane starts swinging towards the OLM

6:29pm- Goes flying over the OLM

6:31pm- Starts lowering

6:34pm- Starts swinging towards bottom of OLM

6:48pm- When looking head on from SBL, it looks like it’s going to the left side of the BQD. So this is the middle manifold. Which based on Ryan’s renders makes sense because the pipe for the far right manifold will run over the pipe for this one

7:06pm- Holding about 10ft above the pad

7:10pm- Starting to tilt the backside down into place

7:30pm- Level it back out and holding around 10ft

7:50pm- Lowered down some more but behind stuff now. Still tension on the straps

7:51pm- B10 starts rolling from the rocket garden

8:16pm- Manifold is raised back up

8:18pm- B10 staged at the end of Remidos

8:21pm- Manifold lowered back down and swung in closer to the pad

8:25pm- Grinding by the doghouse area

8:50pm- Lifting straps on the manifold went slack for a second before they went taunt again. So the plate may be close to/all the way down but the LR11000 still has the weight. If only those tarps weren’t there.

9:00pm- Speaking of the tarps, that area of the plate is where one section of the plugs were. Ryan theorized that they’ll be adding extensions on to these areas.. So that might be what’s happening on the other side. We can definitely see some welding going on

9:20pm- 2 small excavators are working on digging a trench for a small pipe

10:27pm- B10 is rolling.

10:33pm- Turns on to hwy 4

10:40pm- They see me rollin, down highway 4, I know they’re all jealous, because I’m off to get all white and frosty. I’m going to get all white and frosty, I’m going to get all white and frosty, wait until you see me all white and frosty, going to look really cold all white and frosty. (Weird Al I am not but Hey it’s been a long day, I’ve got to entertain myself somehow)

11:10pm- 128 wheels tonight. So they added 1 section to each line of SPMT’s after delivering the manifolds.

11:19pm- Time for a break. (Someone read it my version of White and Nerdy and now it refuses to go any further until I delete it)

11:22pm- While we were watching the big shiny thing drive down the road, the LR11000 was unhooked from the manifold section. (It happened at 23:19 on Rover 2)

11:32pm- Straps being hooked to the next manifold piece

11:39pm- B10 is rolling again

11:40pm- Someone didn’t make sure their swing path was clear. Grover swings into one of the cages holding the high pressure gas bottles nearly knocking 2 cages over.

11:47pm- Forklift arrives to move the cages

11:48pm- And just what was Grover doing while this was happening, that’s right,

Basket go down

(This gets synced)

[–] eco@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[–] pigeonberry@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

#To repeat, new pinned thread:

Thread 47

As @clothes on lemmy.world pointed out: for some reason, via lemmy.world, this 46B thread is still pinned and there's no sign of 47.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I'm leaving reddit permanently, so thanks for maintaining this!

[–] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

This is the finest FAQ in the fediverse. I come back to it, just to appreciate just how much data you fit in it, so easily accessible and concise for the experienced and inexperienced alike. It makes up for so many poorly written, ugly, inhuman FAQs across the years.

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
FAA Federal Aviation Administration
FTS Flight Termination System
LOX Liquid Oxygen
MECO Main Engine Cut-Off
~ MainEngineCutOff podcast
N1 Raketa Nositel-1, Soviet super-heavy-lift ("Russian Saturn V")
NSF NasaSpaceFlight forum
~ National Science Foundation
OLM Orbital Launch Mount
QD Quick-Disconnect
SPMT Self-Propelled Mobile Transporter
Jargon Definition
Raptor Methane-fueled rocket engine under development by SpaceX
cryogenic Very low temperature fluid; materials that would be gaseous at room temperature/pressure
~ (In re: rocket fuel) Often synonymous with hydrolox
hydrolox Portmanteau: liquid hydrogen fuel, liquid oxygen oxidizer
iron waffle Compact "waffle-iron" aerodynamic control surface, acts as a wing without needing to be as large; also, "grid fin"
ullage motor Small rocket motor that fires to push propellant to the bottom of the tank, when in zero-g

13 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 4 acronyms.

[Thread #0 for this sub, first seen 15th Jun 2023, 07:42] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

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[–] RaphTheSwissDude@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon thinks the next launch will be in 6 to 8 weeks

[–] 675longtail@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

8 weeks to resume testing on the OLM perhaps, but there will be a lot of new stuff to test before launch

[–] LettuceTurnipTheBeet@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

New comment from /u/santacfan on Reddit:

Starbase Live-

8:31am- Mini excavator arrives and starts digging towards the back left side. Start of the pit for the deluge piping to run over to the underground bunker from the OLM?

9:56am- Manifold sections come into view

9:59am- Head on view looks like some crazy new battle tank coming down the road

10:31am- Manifolds arrive at the launch site. Now we just need one of the cranes to disconnect from the plate to lift them. (Just based on position, I’d assume it’ll be the LR11000)

10:49am- Steel plate raised back up

12:46pm- Plate lowered again

12:47pm- 3rd smaller crane comes in and removes a piece of metal

1:06pm- LR11000 looks to be unhooked

1:07pm- Small crane removed another piece of metal.

1:13pm- Another piece of metal removed

1:25pm- Grover is unhooked

1:29pm- Grover swings away and lowers.

1:31pm- A poor telehandler driver learns the dangers of driving in the rain next to a slope

1:38pm- Another piece of metal removed

1:42pm- Mini excavator with a Jack hammer attachment starts working in between the leg with the cryo pipes and the leg with the new staircase

1:50pm- 4th piece of metal removed

1:58pm- 5th piece of metal removed

2:30pm- Front end loader hooked to the stranded telehandler

2:34pm- Flat piece of metal lifted from the cryo pit

2:40pm- Front end loader gave it his all. The telehandler didn’t budge.

2:52pm- Telehandler brings in a load of metal to where the Jack hammer has been working

3:02pm- Lifting rig is starting to be attached to the first manifold section

3:23pm- First manifold lifted off of SPMT’s

3:29pm- Manifold sat down on ground

3:30pm- Smaller crane is hooked up to the stand the manifold was on and it is lifted off to the other side

3:35pm- Smaller crane disconnected from stand

3:43pm- Manifold is being lifted again

3:52pm- Lowered onto the stand it was moved on

3:55pm- Lifting straps being disconnected from the first manifold

3:57pm- A Cat excavator is getting ready to show the stuck telehandler who’s boss

4:08pm- Telehandler is free. They made a mess of that berm though. (Don’t pull uphill at shallow angles)

4:14pm- Telehandler drives away.

4:16pm- Lifting straps being connected to second manifold

4:20pm- Top left box. Manifold is lifted slightly and moved off to the side of the SPMT’s. (Can be seen better on Rover 2)

4:53pm- Second manifold lifted, swung over, and set down on stand

5:05pm- LR11000 unhooked from the second manifold

7:21pm- LR11000 gets hooked up to something. Can’t tell if it’s a manifold for sure.

8:29pm- Cryo pit got too chilly and someone had to start a fire to get warm. (There’s flames but no one is freaking out, so I’m assuming they’re intentional)

8:59pm- Police staging at Sanchez for the next roll out

9:05pm- Roll on to the highway, roll on along, Roll on manifold, to your new home, Roll on sheriff, roll on crew, Roll on SPMT’s like we ask you to do, And roll on 96 wheeler, roll on

9:30pm- Manifold arrives

9:52pm- LR11000 has picked up the section it’s been strapped to and backed towards the OLM

10:02pm- Crane rotates piece

10:08pm- Lowered towards the ground still spinning

10:20pm- Sat down on the ground

10:26pm- Forklift brings the stand over for the manifold piece

10:28pm- Manifold lifted back up

10:33pm- Sat back down on stand

10:41pm- Crane appears to be disconnected and there are multiple people on top of the plate

Rover 1-

9:50am- SPMT’s carrying 2 manifold sections rolls towards launch site

21:06- Second rollout of the day passes by

Rover 2-

10:21am- Manifolds come into view

10:25am- Turns into the gate

16:20- Second manifold lifted

16:37- Small crane lifts stand for second manifold off to the side

16:50- SPMT’s leave launch site

16:54- Manifold swung over to the stand

21:28- Third manifold arrives

(This gets synced)

[–] SantacFan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Starbase live-

9:15am cdt- 11 more loads of rebar have been lifted over to the OLM since midnight. LR11000 still holding the deluge pipe in position to be welded.

Edit-

10:48am- Deluge pipe is moved to the side of the underground pipe bunker and laid down on the ground.

11:50am- 8 more bundles of rebar have been lifted over to the OLM. Some presumably extra bent pieces have been lifted away as well.

1:11pm- Deluge pipe raised again and moved back to join the pipe that goes underground.

5:00pm- Since noon there has been 15 more loads of rebar craned over to the OLM. Most loads appear to be multiple pieces but there are several large bent pieces that have been moved one at a time.

9:00pm- 10 more loads of rebar have been moved over. (44 for the day so far and 56 in the last 40 hours)

[–] SantacFan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I was summoned out of my Christmas lair for an update. I see the cladding was already mentioned.

Starbase live- Yellow crane to the left of OLM has been lifting rebar over to the pit most of the day.

(I missed part of the morning but I’ve counted at least 12 loads so far)

Rover 2-

20:43 cdt- The large deluge pipe that we saw test fitted last night has now been painted white and is lifted back over to where the pipes go underground by the tanks.

[–] Saturnlks@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you know where one can find a link to those pictogragh images to build/test status for starship/booster? I found those as a clean hud of shipset build stats easily digested. Not sure who created them though I always enjoyed seeing them when they popped up on reddit

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Starship Development Thread #47

Yooooo

Road closure is now scheduled for tomorrow!

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