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[–] SparkIT@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Uh.. that's unfortunate because many will just interpret it as federation being bad and will go back to reddit preaching against fedi.

That being said it could also be a reason for admins to have conversations about how to deal with these migrations and which moderation tools they need.

[–] negi@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

kbin.social will also be defederated from beehaw.org, sooner or later.
After all, it has open registration policy and many users too.

[–] scyrp@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

some of the first posts i see on kbin from other instances are about a major defederation lol. not ideal since this is happening when the fediverse is growing... but I suppose this is the intent behind the fediverse.

[–] Frigorific@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If you are a subreddit drama enjoyer this exact sort of thing only adds more appeal to the fediverse.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, don't worry about it, beehaw's always been shit

[–] MattMist@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their stance on some things is maybe a bit too drastic for some, but they already have one of the largest communities for certain topics like gaming (at least last I checked), so we may lose out on the content that would help people stay long-term, which is sad.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

People should stop looking at where the biggest community is. Are you an actor or a spectator? Start creating content in your own instance. This is what killed reddit, too much spectators, all sharing the same on-liner jokes. Do you have an interesting take about a videogame? Then share it. Write things down.

[–] New_account@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I signed up for Lemmy.World because that was the only one open a few days ago. Does that mean I need to create a separate account on Beehaw to view their stuff now? Why does this stuff have to be so complicated? Is Lemmy actually a viable Reddit alternative or not?

[–] CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know how some subreddits would ban you if you posted in another one? That's basically all this is. We're on lemmy.world which is less guarded, so we're lumped in with troublemakers.

Just like with reddit, the solution is to make a new account without affiliation to the defederated groups. There's a bajillion smaller lemmys out there that will likely never get defederated, and it makes the most sense to have one of those be your home vs the largest instances, now that we can see this kind of problem will occur.

[–] WorseDoughnut@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The beehaw admins have stated their hopeful end goal would be a federation whitelist, rather than the current blacklist format. So even if you were to make you own / join a smaller instance it seems like beehaw's entire goal is to be walled off from most instances.

[–] CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That is a very good point. I'm such a situation the only two choices are to make their community your home and play by their rules (what many of us just left Reddit over) or ignore it and interact with the content and communities you can.

[–] Unblended@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

okay by their rules (what many of us just left Reddit over)

People are leaving Reddit over their moderation rules? I thought the CEO did something with the API.

But I mean, yeah, people who have compatible instance rules will federate and the people on those instances will have agreed to those rules. I think you might be overestimating how restrictive typical rules are, unless you think transphobia being called "not okay" is too restrictive.

[–] Jilanico@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bummer :( bad actors ruining it for everyone.

So what does this mean for lemmy.world users? Can we still seamlessly see beehaw communities but not post/comment?

As for beehaw users, I assume we and our communities simply do not exist, right?

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The content of an instance is copied to another instance as soon as users request it and if both instances are federated

As for beehaw users, I assume we and our communities simply do not exist, right?

Don't say "we". We don't know who you are unless we hover on your username and I guess mobile users cannot even do it anyway.