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So whenever you make a comment with the Lemmy page of this here you get this as warning now maybe Reddit goes now full censorship? wanted to post this https://i.imgur.com/9dily6R.png

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[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey redditor have you ever heard of this platform that starts with a "L" and ends with a "emmy"? Its like reddit but more freedom! There are more than 1 servers called "instances" and each can talk to each other unless the instance owner decided to ban another instance. Go to join-l3mmy(dot)org (replace the 3 with e) and just find a random instance to get started! If sign up page have circle spinning indefinitely, find another instance or change the username since either the instance is either overloaded, disabled sign up, or the username you've chosen was taken.

There! Feel free to copy this text!

[–] snuff@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This looks way too sketchy. If you saw this, would you actually do what they said? I know I wouldn't. It reeks of viruses and adware. :p

[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean you could also tell people to "google it", but redditors are too lazy to do some googling.

[–] roving6478@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually it's not as easy as yout make it sound.

If you Google "Lemmy" you get images of the guy from motorhead. I've even done site searches with specific instances and a lot don't show up at all. Beehaw, sh.it, and kbin.social were very difficult to find with Google.

[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe it's just me, but if someone told me to do some googling about a social media platform, and some dude's name pops up in the search, I'd probably redo the search and add some context words like "Lemmy Platform" or "Lemmy Reddit Alternative".

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's what I did.

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[–] snuff@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Lol, that is certainly true. But isn't reddit still allowing people to say the word "Lemmy" on its own? I still see it a lot.

You could tell them to go to lemmy.world instead since that instance is stable, has open registration and can handle a lot of users.

[–] tchotchony@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Just type out lemmy, it isn't blocked if you sneak it in replies. I've been doing it for over a week and gotten replied to as well, so no shadowban here yet.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

reddit: "Please don't post links on our link aggregator" :(

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago

More like: "please don't post links we don't like on our link aggregator"

[–] patchymoose@rammy.site 40 points 1 year ago

This is actually hilarious that Reddit is so threatened by Lemmy that they are actively trying to intimidate people from posting a link. What a joke.

[–] deathmetal@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are people just now discovering that Reddit has run on full censorship for a long time?

[–] Evono@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

it was "useable" as long as Reveddit and Undit were there , but sadly they died first with the api threats now ... its unbearable.

[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 year ago

I just thought it was specific mods. Usually when i make reddit comments defending Israel they get silently deleted.

[–] polaroid@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big brother is watching indeed 👁️

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[–] jamon@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Post it as a qr code with the URL printed in the image as well.

[–] NorthRanger@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Are you sure it just isnt a warning specific to that subreddit for other reasons? They do have rules against certain types of links so I could see there being a reminder popping up when any link is detected.

Though tbh, not our problem anymore, good riddance

[–] whatyousaidontwitter@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny bug: when I open this post with kabin it shows me one screenshot, when I open it on any lemmy instance, it shows me another one

kabin on the left, lemmy on the right: https://i.imgur.com/A7O4Qmj.png

[–] LChitman@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On kbin, if you click the little image icon next where it says the number of comments, it will show the article image. The image it's showing in your screenshot is from the text of the post.

[–] whatyousaidontwitter@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I noticed after I commented and deleted right after. The weird thing is that on my home instance it shows as deleted for me, but on the instance where the post was made, it shows the full comment?????

https://i.imgur.com/dV5Z68d.png

[–] chris2112@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Bjoern_Tantau@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Post your image instead of text content.

[–] Evono@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literarily posted the image

[–] Bjoern_Tantau@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant, post the image of your comment on Reddit so that the automod can't block the text.

[–] Evono@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They didn't block it I think maybe they ban me later lol

[–] Pika@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the image you posted doesn't have the image that you showed there, but it could just be a weird discrepancy between kbin and lemmy.world

[–] Evono@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another dude explained it above, kbin is weird you need to press another button to see it how lemmy users see it.

So it's kbin being partially shitty with lemmy.

[–] Pika@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yea i see that now, thats super weird

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[–] dill@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like a joke tbh thats so insane

[–] Evono@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

They feel threatened because blackouts actually had them user drops and people migrated to lemmy they fear they loose the grip on reddit.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try linking to kbin.social

[–] Evono@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] tal@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Doesn't actually matter. You can have HTTP URLs that bounce to content on the lemmy.dbzer0.com instance through other Fediverse instances, including both kbin and lemmy instances. For kbin, it's an "/m/" prefix for "magazine", and for lemmy a "/c/" prefix for "community".

https://kbin.social/m/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

https://lemmy.ml/c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Every time someone adds a new Fediverse instance, it creates a new instance that can be bounced through.

Here's a list of lemmy instances:

https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

And kbin instances:

https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list

People have been adding them quite quickly over the past few days.

Also, there are URL shorteners and all that sort of thing that can make it harder to block content via doing redirects in case they start doing something like doing a substring search on URLs for anything containing lemmy.dbzer0.com. I imagine that you scurvy scalawags of /r/piracy are probably more-familiar with what Reddit blocks in that area than I am. Might be a good idea to mix that in, just to discourage them trying to block large chunks of all of kbin/lemmy with the rationale that they're trying to block you pirate folks from linking others to your pirate fortress.

EDIT: A bit more experimentation shows that whatever you guys have set up and however lemmy normally works, it apparently can be reached, albeit with a warning thrown up about a bad cert, via the IP address:

http://167.86.124.45/

This opens a number of interesting doors for linking to your outlaw port.

Unless the Reddit blocking code has fully-conformant-to-procotol parsing of IP addresses -- and very, very few software packages do -- it probably isn't capable of reducing IP addresses in URLs to a unified format. However, the web browsers that users use normally have a fairly-robust implementation and probably can understand such interesting formats. And IP supports representations in other numeric bases. Here's a handy base calculator:

https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/number/base-converter.html

So, for example, we could throw a little hex (base 16) in there with a leading "0x":

http://167.0x56.124.45/

Maybe make it interesting by doing a little octal (base 8) on top of that, with a leading "0":

http://0247.0x56.124.45/

Maybe merge the last two octets there...124*(2^8)+45=31789, so:

http://0247.0x56.31789/

A quick test also shows that aside from the cert warning in Firefox, it looks like your lemmy instance is fine with serving up your instance content to any browser that reached you having any hostname that maps to your IP. If any of you guys have any domains anywhere and can add an A record to it that points at 167.86.124.45, you can link to your lemmy instance via that hostname. If you get an actual cert for that hostname and throw it up on the server, and if whatever the server infrastructure for your lemmy instance is supports multiple certs -- I have no idea, haven't looked at it -- then you can probably even get rid of the cert warning.

I can probably throw you some other ideas if they start cracking down on those. Feel free to ping me.

[–] ja534@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Didn't know you could do that with IP addresses and still have a browser display it, that's pretty neat

[–] stux@u.fail 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think u.fail is still safe :D -ish

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Ya, that's sort of a problem with them trying to block lemmy links, there's >500 lemmy domains to choose from, and even if you just blanket-ban domains that use the word lemmy, you're still looking at a ton of links to block individually.

[–] Stargazer6343@burggit.moe 5 points 1 year ago

They're scared

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how that will be justified, and how the common redditors react. They'll prob just fight amongst themselves actually smh..

[–] wreel@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

This is the way

[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

We did it boys. The Fediverse has officially rustled Reddit’s jimmies. Only way but up

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