Another subreddit posted the date he said it, which I think added to it - He said it on April 19th of this year - https://www.gq.com/story/steve-huffman-reddit-public-tiktok-ban - that aged poorly very very quickly
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You mean m/agedlikeavocado
I wonder if the author will be contacting him for a follow-up.
I wonder if the author will be contacting him for a follow-up.
Spez: How dare you record a private conversation showing my hypocrisy?!
If this is how the admins choose to act, so fucking be it. I'll deltree my 12 year old account and never go back. As it stands, the fediverse is already my new home, and the users who decide to remain on reddit can explain to all the new users what the fuck went wrong.
The only people on reddit who are against the blackout are conservative assholes who hate picket lines. They're going to be the majority of remaining users.
JUST LIKE TWITTER! I love that the new internet comes in two flavors, "open source hippie (doesn't work well)" and "vaguely fascist (also doesn't work that well tbh)"
You made me chuckle.
Also the people who say "well I'm not using third party apps so who cares anyway"
The thing they should care about is how reddit has handled this situation. Imagine what nonsense they'll come up with next if they're willing to turf away some of the oldest and most dedicated users
Exactly this. I've used RIF since forever, so RIF is Reddit for me. Even if they take it all back and everything goes back to normal, there's still a bad taste in my mouth. Reddit is clearly against the community, literally fighting it. Not even trying to find some sort of compromise or anything. So screw it, kbin seems pretty cozy so far, to be honest.
Honestly, even if they walk everything back, I still know they want to kill it eventually. Might as well already make my way over to other places like here, and stay with them.
I don't know, but I already think I like it here.
I actually used the newer official desktop site, and really didn't mind it at all. What I minded was Reddit acting like their company was Reddit. No, you just provided the website and infrastructure. You were not Reddit. WE were Reddit. And we liked Reddit as it was, not what you are turning it into to make a quick buck on your IPO. We didn't appreciate providing ALL the value and then being treated as if we weren't important or to be listened to. I'm tired of good sites being whored out for mega-bucks and then transformed into another sub-par lowest common denominator that is a ghost of its former self. I'll skip the wait and pain of watching that happen yet again, and leave now.
So yeah, I wasn't a third party app user, but in the long run I'll still be effected by everything corporate management is doubling down on right now.
Here's the first paragraph from Cory's post:
"Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die." Reddit is in step 4.
Yeah, the "enshittification" concept, I've read this, and definitely agree.
You're completely right from a user's perspective. I think this post from Cory Doctorow helps explain what we're seeing. He doesn't talk about Reddit specifically, but it should be easy to infer the implications for Reddit from what he writes: https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/
Yeah they don't see the point, wich is the trajectory of the platform.
They are lying to everybody in order to push out of market the 3rd party apps, but that's one side of it, they are also, effectively, forcing you as a user to use a worse app just for them to get more money by doing less.
Nah I’m “conservative” (at least that’s what they call me on Reddit now), and most of us support this blackout. The site has been hostile to diverse political opinions for a long time. Note how one of the largest subs, r/Politics, remained open the whole time. They are, by every metric, very left wing.
Don’t let the silly culture war divide us on this one. We all think Reddit has jumped the shark.
You only think /politics is left wing because they banned all the left wingers.
Also, liberals aren't left wingers. Have you ever heard an anarchist or a socialist talk about a liberal?
I hear what you’re arguing. People are much more complex than “left” and “right.” But, colloquially, the people on r/Politics, are left wing. They support abortion, and gay marriage, and trans people, and universal healthcare, and higher taxes, and a hundred other values typically shared by those on the left.
Old school liberals are certainly different to what we see on the left today.
What they did to The_Donald where Spez edited comments to make the sub seem to be inciting violence, so he had an excuse to ban it, is a prime example and should be a red flag regardless of someone's politics.
The banning from several subs automatically of people who joined joke subs like "ChurchofCovid" is also a prime example.
Very hostile to differing political opinions.
I don't think it's a social media site any more, I think it's a propaganda site and a data harvesting operation.
I don't think it's a social media site any more, I think it's a propaganda site and a data harvesting operation.
I agree, but I also think that most social media has been propaganda and data harvesting all the way down from day one.
Like, the internet was not made by accident, or for no reason. It was developed at public universities with military funding.
where Spez edited comments to make the sub seem to be inciting violence, so he had an excuse to ban it
Not what happened. Spez, fuckwit though he is, actually managed to do a halfway decent trolling there.
A bunch of t_d people were slagging him off and insulting him in their comments. Spez got drunk as shit one night and edited their comments, swapping his name with Trump's so that it made them look like a bunch of anti-trumpers. Much gnashing of teeth ensued.
Absolutely shouldn't have done it, especially as CEO of Reddit FFS, but definitely funny as shit.
Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely a mark against him, but he didn't get them banned. They thouroughly got themselves banned on their own.
I think r/Politics is owned by admins so they were never going dark.
It's all rather opaque, isn't it? I suspect you're correct, but if Reddit is actually paying for and controlling the moderation of /r/Politics, that raises a number of serious questions; both ethical and legal.
Legal issue? Nah not really. Ethical issue? Absolutely.
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I replaced every comment I had with a rant about how Reddit has become corporate shills and none of their actions are about profitability and all about easing corporations with the ability to targeted advertise to users while being openly hostile to all their volunteer labor and users.
12 years and 75k of comment karma worth.
How are y'all spreading yourself out in the fediverse so far? Right now I'm just browsing the front page of kbin and occasionally check in on my feed in mastodon, but I'm yet to find my "niche" communities.
Making accounts all over the place and talking to myself, shouting into the void like I did in social media from like 1996-2010
We need to get /r/askhistorians onboard lmao. After that everything else will fall into place
I've made accounts on lemmy.ml, lemmy.ca, requested beehaw.org, and here, but probably going to stick with here for UI reasons plus I like the microblogs for things that don't exactly warrant a post. The Mastodon integration is neat, but I doubt I'll really use it since I never used Mastodon before.
Probably going to stick around here and Tildes (though that's not the fediverse). Subscribed to a bunch of communities in the various lemmy instances before federation was took down for a bit, so hopefully one niche community grows there. Made one of my own for a relatively niche game I play (it's a decently popular game, but it's definitely niche).
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Already been here in Fediverse for a while (with Mastodon), but kbin is Vulcan's first link aggregation platform in the fediverse.
Bumpy start was to be expected but so far a very enjoyable experience, also contributed content to magazines.
Jeez, I'm on kbin.social, ramblinreaders (bookwyrm), pixelfed.social, and dmv.community (mastodon). So far I have persuaded 0.0 of my Instagram and Facebook friends to move to ActivityPub instances. :-( Might just be me. I've stopped posting on the facebook except for a quarterly post about Mastodon and I deleted my Twitter. I don't know how fast Insta will reach terminal enshittification, but it seems to be holding on.
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I haven't been reading these messages for the blocked communities. Maybe I should have been.
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