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Peertube

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A free software to take back control of your videos

Peertube is an open, federated alternative to Youtube without advertising or tracking. On this site, you can find a good Peertube instance, with good rules, good moderation and most importantly a friendly community.

https://joinpeertube.org/

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I'm new at both PeerTube and at Piped/NewPipe frontends. I've always wanted to support PeerTube but every time I browse instances I see very little content and it's especially barren for the type of stuff I like. Not really a tech guy, even though I'm learning some programming my background is that of a Literature teacher that likes gaming (especially indie gaming, but some AAA RPG/JRPG/narrative/strategy gaming is cool too) and video essays about anything that have at least a bit of humanities bend.

I've started using Piped to watch YT videos (I don't use NewPipe since I rarely use my phone, more of a desktop guy). I've heard you can watch both YT and PeerTube videos on NewPipe. Can you do the same at Piped? And if so, what would be the best way to find channels with the aforementioned characteristics?

Stuff in Spanish is fine too since that's my actual language but I assume there's not much stuff in Spanish in PeerTube and therefore even less quality content and even less quality content that caters to my specific likes. So I foresee it'll mostly be in English like in YouTube.

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[–] Knusper@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Here's a solid recommendation post for PeerTube channels, which you can look through: https://social.growyourown.services/@FediFollows/111291322079656821

If you just want videos from PeerTube and Piped to appear in the same feed, you can do that via an RSS news aggregator. For example, Mozilla Thunderbird has that built in, but there's also tons of small, dedicated applications, depending on what OS you're using, or even as a browser extension.

In PeerTube, you can get an RSS feed, either of your subscription feed directly, or for the individual PeerTube channels, you'd like to subscribe to.
I don't know, if you can also get an RSS feed for your subscription feed in Piped, but you can get it per channel. Just click on the little WiFi-looking button.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No you can't.

You can watch PeerTube, YouTube, Odyssey, Kick, Twitch and more using GrayJay.

However the only PeerTube instance you can use is FUTO, which only has FUTO videos. But it is open source, so maybe you can go and modify the code for yourself if you're handy like that.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Only their own instance? That's annoying. Newpipe can be used to watch any PeerTube instance, for example

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago

Yes it's unfortunate

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Grayjay is not open-source. It's source-available. That still means your comment is true in principle, but don't expect to be able to share your changes with anyone.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes it is and I'm not arguing about this again.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, why can't you say "source-available” or "basically open-source"? For a few weeks, I genuinely thought Grayjay was open-source, because of misinformation that you and others are spreading. It was mere chance that I looked into their LICENSE file, because I was curious to see what open-source license they're using, only to see that they're not.

I'm a software developer, so my interpretation of "open-source" needs to be extremely precise. Open-source has tons of legal implications. Their FUTO TEMPORARY LICENSE breaks some of those implications, which is fine by itself, but if you use the one word in the English language with a clear definition for it, then you're effectively lying to anyone who uses that precise definition.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

why can't you say "source-available” or "basically open-source"?

I can but I choose not to.

For a few weeks, I genuinely thought Grayjay was open-source

That's good because it is.

I'm a software developer, so my interpretation of "open-source" needs to be extremely precise.

The only " precision" required is that the source code is open.

If you use the one word in the English language with a clear definition for it, then you're effectively lying to anyone who uses that precise definition.

Whose definition? You're the only one lying.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am talking about the official definition: https://opensource.org/osd/

The publication of that definition is what caused us to use the word "open-source" in our vocabulary. And the first sentence in that definition is "Open source doesn’t just mean access to the source code.".
When I talk to our legal team at work and tell them that a library is open-source, I'm effectively saying to them that there's no legal restrictions on us using that.

Mere access to the source code does not offer that. You could be granted access to the source code and not even be allowed to modify it, as you suggested to OP.
As far as I can tell, this is the case for Grayjay. So, yes, OP can modify it, assuming they don't get caught doing so.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And I am talking about the simple, self-explanatory phrase.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

Less self-explanatory than "source-available", because of that official definition.