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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (4 children)

it sounds like israel built a bunker under a hospital, and is now bombing it because they suspect hamas is using it because they took hostages there?

The proper solution for this is to search the hospital not bomb it.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But then they wouldn't be able to genocide Palestinians. So not really a solution for them is it? /S

Netanyahu and his right wing govt is fucking unhinged and his intentions toward Palestinians seem to have been clear for many years from the sounds of it. Israelis needs a very different set of leaders that aren't genocidal monsters.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why are people standing in the way of Israel solving the Palestinian problem once and for all with a final solution?! /s

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I agree, if the Palestinians weren't so bad, why don't the other nations just take them all in? it was eye-opening to see how much literal Nazi rhetoric the "support Israel, or you're an antisemite" have been getting into.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

but searching it might find evidence that its not being used, and thus not give them the excuse to bomb a hospital and kill tons of people.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Well you'll be happy to learn they are, in fact, searching it now. And part of it is the storage basement that they built themselves

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Which is why they didn't bomb it directly, but instead searched it. People then shifted the goal posts again and said they shouldn't be there. Also, the part they built was meant to just be a laundry room and some offices. It's not part of the tunnel network Hamas built under that.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

The one we haven't seen and Israel refuses to prove in any meaningful way?

[–] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Actually they did bomb it directly and caused damage to the building. They then terrorized every patient, kidnapped 200 people to an unknown location, and THEN went in to search but of course they found no tunnel inside the hospital itself (because why on earth would a Hamas fighter put the opening there?).

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Laws for thee not for me.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So that's why they were so certain of the bunker's existence. 😅

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 12 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have targeted Gaza's biggest medical facility which it said was the site of a Hamas command center, a charge denied by the group.

Amid widespread condemnation about Israel's targeting of the hospital, CNN anchor Christiane Amanpour asked Barak if the IDF and the Israeli government had done a "good enough job of proving their claim" that there was a "major" Hamas command center and bunker under Shifa.

Barak replied "It's already been known for many years that they have a bunker that originally was built by Israeli constructors underneath Shifa," which was used as a "command post" for Hamas and as a "junction of several tunnels"

BBC Verify said that the Israeli footage appeared to have been recorded before reporters arrived and that the earlier clip showed fewer weapons which the IDF later explained was because more weaponry had been found later in the day.

BBC analysis editor Ros Atkins on November 17 said the IDF video was posted, then deleted, and reposted again, with references to an Israeli soldier held hostage removed.

"We don't know the reasons for that edit, nor how significant it is," Atkins said in the video which as of Tuesday had received 12.4 million views, adding that Israel's military "says suggestions it is manipulating the media are incorrect."


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[–] LaLiLuLuCo@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Literally not talking about the tunnels and bunkers shown recently which are built in Hamas style developed over the last 15 or so years.

The shafts and tunnels are built in a certain style with parts made in gaza. This is all visible.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"hamas style" is that like art Deco? Maybe art Nuevo?

You mean the place the hospital is located and constructed? Weird things in Gaza would be built in Gaza.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago
[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Made of a garbonzo bean based cement?

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[–] LaLiLuLuCo@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (15 children)

They use a specific type of cement piece construction they developed over time to let them build tunnels quickly for cheap. It's been documented historically and proudly by Hamas.

It's the shape of the stone arches and the smaller U shaped pieces in the shaft that tell you it wasn't Israeli built.

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