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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it just me, or should the government figure out a way to determine a good population goal that leads to optimum quality of life and aim to keep the population stable at whatever that number is?

Infinite growth won't work.

Our birth rates are below replacement, so this still leaves a lot of room for immigration.

[–] Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think many economists point to the fact that western countries need younger workers to help pay for the growing percentage of the population that will be retired and needing more government services. So population increase at the rate we have may be needed even with some of the negatives it brings.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I doubt we need that many to balance that particular problem out quite honestly, I'm pretty sure the current rate is just to suppress labour cost inflation.

[–] Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree. We are already seeing the results of aging population. here is a report from stats Canada about it: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220427/dq220427a-eng.htm

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

We aren't immigrating a lot of children, so that report isn't particularly helpful at determining the actual balance. We also probably shouldn't set our entire economy up to handle the wave of baby boomers, otherwise we'll be simply creating another boom cycle in 40 years.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trudeau is aiming at 100 million people, I don't know where they will live however, in the streets?

[–] nicktron@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

It’s not Trudeau, stop blaming everything on him.

https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/why-100m

Even before this initiative was brought up we were still on pace to hit 100 million people before 2100.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You really should check your results before sending off google searches. The only english link in that entire set of results is for some random think tank suggesting it. I even checked the french results and found that the government specifically pushed back against such a suggestion as recently as a few months ago. https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1978949/demographie-immigration-cibles-canada

Trudeau has done a lot of stupid shit, but this doesn't appear to be one of those things.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

well, 500'000 per year is what federal wants https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1929447/immigration-canada-nouveaux-seuils

Anyway, it's too much for our housing, whoever decides it or if it is 500k or 1m per year

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I don't want to know the yearly target, I want to know the end goal. As I said, infinite growth isn't a sustainable target.

[–] tal@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

don't know where they will live however, in the streets?

Canada does have the second-largest land area of any country on Earth, second only to Russia. I wouldn't think that space would be a terrible constraint for Canada.

[–] dirkgentle@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Canada has more area in total, but China and the USA have more land area specifically.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately we've kind of seen what people think when the government wants to step in more directly to help make people's lives better, this kind of thing would just make people cry about 'freedoms.'

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I think the β€œfreedom” crowd would be on board. With housing costs being the way they are and them being racists, cutting back on immigration until we have more affordable housing wouldn’t be a hard sell.

[–] korokua@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

finally we're catching up to metro tokyo's total population

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

With the population there now declining, it's not really a surprise.

[–] sikhness@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now we gotta get all 40 million to join Lemmy.ca 🀣

[–] smorks@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

oof we'd need a beefier server!

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