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I have a story that kinda fits! Never shared this before, but I'm sure many people have experienced something similar.

Anyway, this was long ago in kindergarten. We had one teacher who, for some strange reason, hated it when kids went to the toilet. She'd track who went to the toilet and ask us kindergardeners things like "didn't you just go when I came in" or "why do you always need to go when I'm teaching".

Oh and this is necessary context for later - our classrooms had louvered, transparent windows along the corridor, and the windows were usually kept open, so you could look in easily from the corridor.

Some of us figured out that it was easier to hold your crotch and make a pained expression every time we needed to go. We'd just say "I really need to go" and hop around and she'd relent. But after a few too many people did that she got angry and declared that nobody could go to the bathroom twice in her class and started writing down the names of kids who went to the bathroom. If your name was on the board you couldn't leave the classroom again.

So one day, one of my brilliant classmates asked to go to the toilet, then brought his workbook and pencil out with him. When he came back, he stood outside the classroom listening to the teacher.

Our teacher asked him to come in. He said "but if I come in, I can't go to the toilet later."

Of course the teacher made him come in and changed the rules after that. But I'd like to think this kid became a lawyer.

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[–] dystop@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

lawyered!

i'm sure many people can relate to teachers and bathroom permissions!

[–] eee@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

even prisoners get to go to the bathroom lol. some teachers are just weird

[–] c2h6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Some teachers like their power trip.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not Amazon warehouse employees, they're tracked and rely on Gatorade bottles.

[–] eee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

oh yeah that's bullshit too.

[–] darcy@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why would a teacher ban students from going to the bathroom? That's a normal bodily function. What do they expect the kid to do?

[–] Cakein@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As a teacher, I would always let kids go. Although depending on the situation, I might say "wait a minute until -other student - comes back" or "just listen to this instruction first so you know what to do". You definitely get to know kids who ask to leave to get out of work, but rather than stopping them going, you need to work out why they are avoiding the work in the first place. Often it's anxiety about the work being too hard, or they just need a sensory break because classrooms can be overwhelming. In those cases, it's actually not that helpful to force them to stay in the situation anyway.

[–] mdwhite999@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

I wish more teachers were like you.

[–] darcy@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

You are a true gem!

[–] Senseibu@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are a lot of bad teachers unfortunately

[–] darcy@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

We used to look up to our teachers as role models. It is sad what the education system has become.

[–] c2h6@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hold it apparently. Because kindergarten kids have that much self control

[–] KnittingTrekker@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean, I could maybe understand the bathroom "bans" if you're dealing with older kids (depends on the situation obviously) ... But on kindergarten?

[–] c2h6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's just a recipe for disaster.

[–] arcrust@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That kid is brilliant. I'd be willing to bet that he's a very successful adult now.

[–] c2h6@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

One day he'll credit his kindergarten teacher for his skill at navigating bullshit and finding ways round it.

[–] cura@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, in kindergarten you guys had workbooks already?

[–] c2h6@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe "workbooks" was the wrong term. We had pages with the alphabet, "C is for cat" with a cat for you to color, etc.

[–] kartonrealista@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This sounds like a work of creative fiction. I don't think kids in kindergarten can read or write

[–] average650@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My kids were definitely learning to read and write int kindergarten. They were able to read basic sentences (like, "look at the cat") by the end of the year.

[–] kartonrealista@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe that's a cultural difference. How old would the kid be?

The kindergarten my younger brother went to like more than a decade ago didn't have backboards and stuff, at least none that I remember. Kids would learn to read and write in the "0th" class of the primary school by the age of 6.

[–] average650@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Kindergarten is 5.

I will say that when I was 5, we were learning the alphabet and stuff, but I certainly didn't start any reading until 1st grade. It seems like some stuff starts early now.

[–] c2h6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure I could write in kindergarten. Not super fancy stuff but like "I have a cat"

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