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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 142 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Dogs definitely know when they're doing something they're not supposed to be doing. They get all sneaky and quiet, and look hella guilty if you catch them.

[–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, just like the post described - they know good and bad. They get sneaky, quiet and guilty because they know they were bad.

I have a cat and a dog and i swear to god, my cat gives me a challenging look of pure intent when she does something that she KNOWS she is not allowed; Like jumping up the kitchen counter. We don't want her on that. She sits in front of it, sees me coming, looks me in the eyes with a very certain look and jumps on it. When i tell her to jump down, she will do it immediately but again... a look of pure intent and naughtiness.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

My cat has never even once jumped on the table to get something she shouldn’t have. The ONLY reason she ever gets up there is when she decides she’s been crying for dinner too long, because she knows she’s not supposed to. She doesn’t even know WHY she’s not supposed to, she has no idea what to do when she’s up there. She gets up on it and just stands there and looks at me.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 34 points 11 months ago

Civil disobedience.

[–] MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

With mine is the blinds. She doesn’t mess with them unless she’s mad at me about something, and then she waits until we make eye contact and then begins her assault on the window treatments, while maintaining eye contact. She’s Alpha as fuck.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Absolutely! My parents have a horizontal bar slightly higher than the working surface in their kitchen. The cats are allowed on the bar, not on the surface. These fuckers lay on the bar and stretch their paws down so they are barely hovering above the surface, as if they were saying "I'm not touching it!" like a child. And that's not a relaxed position, they have to really stretch their paws to touch it. Yet they always do it and look at you like "what are you gonna do? I'm not touching it!"

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[–] RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except huskies. Huskies know no guilt. When you catch them, that's how play starts

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago

Huskies are like a mix of toddler and teenager.

Toddler-like play, teenager-like back talk and sass.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Dogs don't know guilt.

They do know that looking at you a certain way makes you no longer mad at them.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 109 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Source: "you can see it on their faces"

[–] joystick@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think cats just have some limited ability to predict human behavior after a while. Comprehending the idea of crime is giving them too much credit.

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"My human doesn't like it when I do this. Too bad human isn't around." -😼

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 23 points 11 months ago

If that isn't the criminal mindset, nothing is.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 84 points 11 months ago (3 children)

To be fair, raccoons give (and take) gifts. I think they consider anything shiny or colorful you leave out accessible to them a gift. My wife was attempting to feed neighborhood cats and we did get some, but we also got raccoons. They took a bright red bowl we were feeding them out of. In return, we've received several shiny rocks and a spoon.

[–] Facelikeapotato@lemmy.ml 62 points 11 months ago

Raccoons giveth, and raccoons taketh away.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That sounds lovely! I would like to trade gifts with racoons!

[–] bmsok@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But when it's 1:30am and two of them jump out of a dumpster at you as you're taking out the trash after a night with friends it feels more like a standoff and your trash is a mafia-style bribe

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[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

The magpie of mammals.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 69 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My source is that I feel it in my bones.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You sure that isn't toxoplasmosis?

[–] MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If it’s toxoplasmosis that makes me love this deeply then I don’t want to be toxoplasmosesless.

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[–] dtjones@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I left out a crockpot of mostly eaten mac and cheese on the counter. I was on the couch half-asleep when I heard my keys (which were next to this crockpot) jingle. I didn't say anything, I just turned my head and saw my cat running for cover as if it had just tripped the alarms during a heist gone wrong. How do I interpret this in any way other than my cat knowing what it was doing was naughty?

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can sometimes hear my cats jumping off of something in the kitchen and they then look at me guiltily while I investigate the countertop to make sure they didn't do anything.

[–] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

Had cats, can hear this comment.

[–] bmsok@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

I was cat-sitting for a friend once when the cat started scratching my friend's couch. I wasn't even looking at the cat and in a very gentle tone I said "I could could end you really quick if I wanted. Not cool, dude." (obviously an empty threat)

The little guy went off to another room for his own little shame party then sulked back into the room and we were couch friends again.

They absolutely know what they're up to.

[–] Dmian@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

Also, one of the most stubborn animals in the animal kingdom. If they want something, they’ll do it, again and again, no matter what you tell them or do to them.

If they want a specific door or window to be left open, they’ll sit there until you open it. Then they’ll stay there to make sure it stays open. If you close it, they’ll complain.

They want to get on top of something? They’ll climb on it. No matter if you shoo them away, yell to scare them away, or get them off. They’ll do their best effort to get on top of that place.

The only thing that can move them from those fixations is by awakening their hunting instinct. Get the laser pointer, and they’ll forget (at least for a while).

But we love them to death. How couldn’t we?

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Volunteered in a wildlife shelter with two foxes. When I brought in the meals, one of the foxes would wait at the door, and as soon as I laid down the food he would take his choice piece of the meal, walk somewhere and hide it for himself.

[–] FardyCakes@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dog hardware, cat software

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[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

If I give a boiled egg to our cat it might eat it if she's hungry. If I leave a boiled egg on the table, she'll stalk it, steal it and run under the couch with it.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cats are stupid cunts and that's why I love them so much.

[–] Syringe@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Total assholes and somehow that's a selling point.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because a dog will love you simply because you exist. If a cat likes you, it's a genuine appreciation and friendship.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Or you fed it within the last 30 seconds.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can’t do theft if everything already belongs to you.

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[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

I love cats. This is accurate and makes them better.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The way I heard it, cats are the only other animal who understands sin

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course. They're catholic.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago
[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Dogs actually do. Definitely birds as well, especially parrots.

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[–] PhinaryDivision@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, coyotes are my favorite kind of rodent.

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Ah, mischievous, fluffy, adorable, little bastards !

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think this is quite right. Cats might do something you don't want them to do for the sole purpose of pissing you off, but I don't think they understand stealing any better than other animals. My dog won't steal things just to make me upset, but she will for another reason. She stole a rag from somewhere when she escaped one time, but she did it to show off to us, not to make us mad. Dogs certainly don't like it when you take something they're eating, and probably understand that we don't like it either. Cats differ from other pets in that they piss you off for fun, not because they understand naughtiness or ownership better.

Many animals have an understanding of ownership and territory that's not dissimilar to our own. If they intend to eat or use an object, they'll protect it with violence. Animals won't let other animals into their den most of the time, might guard food or water sources, and predators will protect their territory with violence. Modern human ownership simply passes most of the duty of protecting property to the state, while pet owners are in charge of keeping our pets from taking things we don't want them to take through physical force. That's all ownership is: protecting things we want the exclusive ability to use through violence.

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wrong. Cats understand us perfectly. They're the only pet animal that move in with us on their own volition. An apex predator (for their weight class) one day decides to humour us and allow themselves to be called Mr. Mittens. What are they really up to?

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I love cats and have 3 but you're wrong.

They are very dumb little apex predators that prefer being lazy and scavenging. It's fact.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

"Cat burglar"

[–] query@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Cats understand that humans are a factor, and decide to work around that factor.

That's basically how they live with humans in the first place, they're not properly domesticated, just happens that they can live with us.

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